Episode 198: I Want 20 Dollars and a Ride to Hot Topic

On the Theory for Turntables Podcast, we listen to and discuss The Smiths’ “The Queen is Dead.”

Ryan and Matt discuss teen angst, grown-up angst, and Morrisey angst while listening to and discussing The Smiths’ The Queen is Dead.

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3 Comments on “Episode 198: I Want 20 Dollars and a Ride to Hot Topic”

  1. Rambler #

    I should have known better… but listening to TFT while I get ready for work has become The Thing I look forward to Wednesdays for. But there are episodes that I seriously should not listen to until after work, and this is so obviously one that I only have myself to blame.

    Now my concentration is constantly interrupted by the following subjects.

    – The Smiths + The Clash + The Pixies = Nirvana
    {and it is glorious}

    – Good thing is that if a double-decker bus crashes into you both, we can make it through the indie era of late 90’s-mid 00’s with a few basic formulas.

    – Discount/Second Hand fashion. Cobain’s thrift store wear and Grunge’s flannel, and their relationship to Johnny Cash’s explanation of “The Man in Black” –
    ‘I wear the black for the poor and the beaten down,
    Livin’ in the hopeless, hungry side of town’

    – are good bands formulas with 3 variables, and mediocre bands formulas with 2 variables?
    The Smiths + Black Sabbath + Johnny Cash = Alice in Chains

    Springsteen + Johnny Cougar = John Mellencamp

    …and bad bands are 2 variable subtractive formulas
    The Smiths – Personality = generic Emo

    The Smiths – Talent = ?

    The Smiths – The Smiths = Michael Buble?


    • Rambler #

      Oh and “world class” bands go through iterations where they ARE one of their own 3 variables:

      Them + Joy Division = U2 (boy era)

      U2 + The Clash + The Who = U2 (War era)

      U2 + Dylan + Elvis = U2 (Joshua Tree era)

      U2 + Bowie + Lou Reed = U2 (Achtung Baby era)

      Are certain legendary bands elemental?

      Is the formula for U2 (boy era) always already U2 + Them + Joy Division ?

      Meet The Beatles = The Beatles + ____ + ____

      The Smiths (The Smiths era) = The Smiths + ____ + ____


      • Ryan Sheely OTI Staff #

        Oh wow, I love this additive/subtractive game as a generalized thing, and I’m glad you liked it too. I will start churning on this, probably tomorrow when I’m supposed to be getting ready for work.

        The Smiths + Black Sabbath + Johnny Cash = Alice in Chains is especially mind-blowing to me.

        Very #blessed for TFT to be your Wednesday morning distraction. We have some cool things lined up for the next few weeks… stay tuned!


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