Ryan Sheely and Matthew Wrather consider the entire first season of Lena Dunham’s Girls, focusing on misguided critical backlash, the phenomenon of petit bourgeois-face, the show’s unique economic situation and artistic merits, and all the damn nudity.
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The last scene of the last ep, Hannah waking up in the subway and walking to the beach, might be my absolute favorite scene of Girls, for all the reasons Matt pointed out. And everytime I’ve watched it, Louie came to mind. Are you guys ever going to do a podcast on Louie? The whole being depressed, eating ice cream in bed thing is very teenage-y (or 24-year-old-me-y, but anyway…)
Well, I’m not even done listening to the podcast yet, but I started thinking about Louie and then Ryan brought it up, so I decided to pause and write a quick comment on here.
Also, Matt, thumbs up for bringing up Ally McBeal! Thumbs down for not mentioning all the bathroom dancing to Barry White, regardless of context or actual motive. One of the best things about that show ;)
Last thing (for now), I watched the first ep of Gossip Girl a couple weeks ago, curious to find any indication of Dan being Gossip Girl already and anything related to that. I ended up taking a few notes, I’ll write the on here or email them to you some time in the next few days.
Ok, done now. I know you guys don’t make this podcast exclusively for me (well, duh) but I can’t not thank you for it, this podcast might be the thing I most anxiously await out of everything I watch/read/listen to/etc. Seeing this latest installment here made me happier than the Michelle Williams cameo in Cougar Town!
We have to wait for Louie’s daughters to grow up.
By the way, if you’re interested in investigating whether you can retcon Dan as Gossip Girl, please see: http://gossipgirlexposed.tumblr.com/
http://www.npr.org/2013/01/18/169519664/in-a-fragmented-cultureverse-can-pop-references-still-pop
Wait, Louie’s audience is bigger than Gossip Girl’s?? You guys should totally be doing Louie, the character of Louie himself is the ultimate teenager.
Also, thanks for the link, really interesting stuff there :)
I feel alienated and confounded. I started listening the podcast with certain expectations based on what you, the show creators, told me the show would be about. I accepted the premise and assumed that the podcast would always be about f***ing teenagers. And now I feel like you haven’t held up your end of the bargain.
(If it’s not clear, I’m referencing a previous episode. I’m not actually mad at you. Computers should come with sarcasm mode.)
So is the idea that, Hannah’s project is to do what Lena Dunham did but she is doomed to fail, not because of a lack of talent or drive, but because she just doesn’t have the connections Lena Dunham has?
That’s the first part. The second part is that if she succeeds, the show is perpetuating a sentimental myth about whether outsiders really have access to the discourse of cultural production
I think on one end the pharmacist is more grown up than Hannah and is a capitalist, but on the other hand, he still is benefitting from his parents, he just earns it more than Hannah and her ilk. But there is still a feeling of dependence on the parents.
One thing that bugs me about Girls is that I can’t figure out if it’s actually insightful or just incredibly accurate. What I mean is, it’s definitely an incredibly accurate depiction of a certain demographic, and I wonder if that makes it feel like it has something insightful to say about that demographic, at least intentionally on an authorial level.
I think on some level a part of Hannah is so judgmental of that hometown girl is because she on some level thinks she is that girl, just on a slightly less deluded level.