Episode 519: The Frank Sinatra Cinematic Universe

On the Overthinking It Podcast, we tackle Ocean’s 8, starring Sandra Bullock and Cate Blanchett.

We assemble a crack team of attention thieves—Peter Fenzel, Mark Lee, and Matthew Wrather— to overthink Ocean’s 8, a reboot (post-boot?) of the George Clooney franchise.

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One Comment on “Episode 519: The Frank Sinatra Cinematic Universe”

  1. Kyle #

    I absolutely loved the bathroom sequence in this movie and hadn’t thought about the levels of symbolism until you brought them up. Two comments:

    1) Doesn’t Awkwafina come out of the MEN’s bathroom at some point, then let her hair out of the passing-for-male cut it was in, and become visually female again? I might be misremembering this.

    2) You mention that the biggest failure of the Judaeo-Christian tradition in this movie is its unwillingness to enter the women’s bathroom, but the two bodyguards were quite willing to enter until Sandra Bullock told them they couldn’t. I read that not as squeamishness on their part but rather as the acknowledgment that a woman’s claim to privacy has power over them.

    The fact that they don’t just push past her into the bathroom is really interesting. We know perfectly well from their CV’s that they have the physical ability to do this, probably without causing much of a ruckus. Of course, they think she’s a random A-lister, so they aren’t going to manhandle her, but in a movie that didn’t acknowledge women’s power over female spaces in the way this one does, the scene would have been different.


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