This Entire Theme Park is Illegal

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  • January 16, 2013 at 11:24 pm #27694

    Gab
    January 18, 2013 at 10:30 am #27710

    There are all sorts of stories like this from China. I don’t have time to hunt down the links now, but I’ve heard at least two stories of fake Disney theme parks in China, and one story of a quant European town in the Alps copied down to the building.

    Totally fascinating.

    January 18, 2013 at 9:11 pm #27713

    That is insane. I had no idea copyright infringement could be done on that scale. Ha.
    Honestly though while they reference names and places from WoW only a little of the architecture and statues pictured seem to be faithful.

    January 19, 2013 at 12:54 pm #27714

    Gab

    *anyone

    Now the town thing is interesting. Is there intellectual property over a layout and design of a town? I know there’s a Bavarian-style tourist-ee town in Washington called Leavenworth- it, too, is quaint and adorable. I wonder if that’s a legal problem or not. I’m under the impression of no, but it does raise the question of where the line is/should be.

    January 20, 2013 at 10:21 am #27715

    Additional reading on the copy cat culture in China. Apparently it even has a name: “shanzhai”

    http://www.freakonomics.com/2013/01/10/shanzhai-skyscrapers/

    January 20, 2013 at 10:47 am #27716

    Gab

    I guess this is a case where societal norms override formal-institutional.

    That is an interesting point from Hadid, the architect of the building serving as the focal point- that basically, if you’re being copied, you’re awesome. Almost like it’s an honor. I wonder, is there evidence that getting copied helps the original owner of the intellectual property being copied?

    January 24, 2013 at 5:56 pm #27830

    I heard this

    http://www.npr.org/2013/01/23/170074762/friends-will-be-there-for-you-at-beijings-central-perk

    on All Things Considered yesterday and wondered about the copyright issues. The reporter never brought up the subject.

    My other thought was ‘Why would anyone want to go there?’

    January 24, 2013 at 10:27 pm #27831

    That Hadid quote is funny. That’s the thing about IP that all the copywritists forget or conveniently overlook: if your IP is good enough and strong enough (the vision) the copying doesn’t matter, it only reinforces your IP. FLW is FLW, no matter what.

    Another thing, pointing fingers at China is disingenuous at best. What is Vegas but a repro? Maybe not on a 1:1 scale but still…

    And why would anyone go to any of these places? Because if Mo can’t go to the mountain…

    January 25, 2013 at 8:26 am #27844

    My ‘Why would anyone want to go there?’ thought was specifically about the Central Perk Beijing. I have never been a fan of that show and don’t understand people who are.

    On the other hand, copies of great buildings in a more convenient location would attract me. If someone put a copy of the Petronas Towers in the U.S., I would make a stop if I were going anywhere nearby. Okay, that’s unlikely since if you’re going to make something that huge, you might as well get a new unique design.

    January 25, 2013 at 11:36 am #27845

    Gab

    I’m glad you brought up Vegas- I’m from there. I’d say Vegas and other themed locations aren’t as unsettling because they’re more like a tribute band than someone recording the original song and trying to say they wrote it themselves. Mimicking the architectural style, and especially the way the hotels in Vegas look (cartoonish, really), there’s no pretense that any of it is authentic or original. And even the building-by-building replica of the town in China, that’s more like the tribute band that spends hours and hours trying to essentially perform their recording of “Don’t Stop Believing,” to the point where yeah, if you closed your eyes, you’d think it was Journey onstage. So while both the mockup and replication are done with a lighthearted tribute in mind, they’re not serious in their overall mission or execution, nor do they claim to be. Now, okay, a WoW theme park isn’t necessarily “serious,” but what I mean is, there’s a direct copyright on WoW and its content, whereas one could say the buildings in Vienna are in public domain. And like the tribute band, part of the gimmick for a replication town is that it’s a replication at all- “Come see the most architecturally accurate Bavarian town outside of Bavaria!” is part of the draw (be it spoken or unspoken).

    So I’d say, again, the difference between a mockup town and the WoW park is twofold. 1) The public domain-type aspect versus a standing copyright; 2) the gimmick part.

    Which again, makes the gal who designed that skyscraper pretty interesting. If she did, indeed, get more gigs because of it, then I’d be really glad for her. If not, then I’d wonder if she’d change her opinion.

    January 25, 2013 at 10:49 pm #27848

    You are obviously not into architecture. Hadid is well into the subclass of staritecture, so famous that she’s immediately recognizable. Rich, famous and sought after, copies only make her more famous. They aren’t a threat.

    January 26, 2013 at 12:52 am #27849

    Gab

    I am, as you are so kind to point out, unfamiliar with architecture. However, I don’t see how that discredits me, or even how familiarity with architecture is necessary for what I said to have any credit. Regardless, I’ll humor you. She’s not suing, as I said, and to add your info, because they aren’t a threat. If they ended up being so, she may. That’s still pretty much the point I was making, so thanks for proving it for me via your vast knowledge of the realm of architecture.

    I know that was snarky, but really, there’s no need to get condescending.

    January 26, 2013 at 4:17 am #27850

    Strange. I didn’t think I was being condescending at all. You didn’t seem to recognize Hadid’s name so I replied. No snark intended.

    Why so defensive?

    January 26, 2013 at 11:35 am #27852

    Gab

    The “you obviously” struck me as condescending, is all. And it surprised me, given the usual attitude and demeanor of the site.

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