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		<title>By: Melissa D.</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/03/15/overthinking-lost-14/#comment-16080</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved Dr. Linus, officially my favourite episode of the series so far. I cried a couple times, I had a big goofy grin on my face at all the other times. A lot of those bits could not have been done by another actor - not as well, at least - Michael Emerson is incredible.

&quot;Because no one else will have me.&quot;

Is probably my favourite moment in the series to date.

Michael Emerson needs an Emmy this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved Dr. Linus, officially my favourite episode of the series so far. I cried a couple times, I had a big goofy grin on my face at all the other times. A lot of those bits could not have been done by another actor &#8211; not as well, at least &#8211; Michael Emerson is incredible.</p>
<p>&#8220;Because no one else will have me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is probably my favourite moment in the series to date.</p>
<p>Michael Emerson needs an Emmy this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Kbrack</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/03/15/overthinking-lost-14/#comment-15974</link>
		<dc:creator>Kbrack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked both Sundown and Dr.Linus a lot, but for different reasons.  Sundown may have been more of a guilty pleasure; watching Sayid being a badass is always enjoyable to me.  Dr.Linus was definitely more of an epic character driven story.  I agree entirely with the content of the article.

As for Jin and Sun, they will get their own episode soon I&#039;m sure.  We&#039;ll find out what was going on with Jin in that freezer contrasted with Sun and Jin finally meeting up on the island.  I bet we&#039;ll have to sit through a Hurley episode first, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked both Sundown and Dr.Linus a lot, but for different reasons.  Sundown may have been more of a guilty pleasure; watching Sayid being a badass is always enjoyable to me.  Dr.Linus was definitely more of an epic character driven story.  I agree entirely with the content of the article.</p>
<p>As for Jin and Sun, they will get their own episode soon I&#8217;m sure.  We&#8217;ll find out what was going on with Jin in that freezer contrasted with Sun and Jin finally meeting up on the island.  I bet we&#8217;ll have to sit through a Hurley episode first, though.</p>
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		<title>By: jimp</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/03/15/overthinking-lost-14/#comment-15972</link>
		<dc:creator>jimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am a Sun worshipper.  Don&#039;t let the Sun go down on me! (On second thoughts...)

Wouldn&#039;t matter if Sun was dead anyway in the alt-universe.  They&#039;re all gonna have to sacrifice the possibility of living in that reality in order to prevent whatever bad stuff is gonna go on on the island.  Is my prediction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am a Sun worshipper.  Don&#8217;t let the Sun go down on me! (On second thoughts&#8230;)</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t matter if Sun was dead anyway in the alt-universe.  They&#8217;re all gonna have to sacrifice the possibility of living in that reality in order to prevent whatever bad stuff is gonna go on on the island.  Is my prediction.</p>
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		<title>By: Akilah</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/03/15/overthinking-lost-14/#comment-15966</link>
		<dc:creator>Akilah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, I hope not.  If they kill Sun, I might have to stop watching the show.  I LOVE HER THAT MUCH.

The best Arzt irony is when he says he smells like formaldehyde.  Because on the island he&#039;s dead.  Get it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I hope not.  If they kill Sun, I might have to stop watching the show.  I LOVE HER THAT MUCH.</p>
<p>The best Arzt irony is when he says he smells like formaldehyde.  Because on the island he&#8217;s dead.  Get it?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/03/15/overthinking-lost-14/#comment-15921</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gab and mlawski: as for more Arzt irony, someone on one of the other umpteen recaps I read made the (abstract) connection that Arzt in sideways-2004 is using outdated equipment from the 1950s; in regular 2004/2007, the Others are using outdated equipment from the 1950s (i.e., everything they took from the U.S. military when they came to the island).

@jimp: as for Jin and Sun in the alt-universe... is it possible that Jin&#039;s search for Sun will last most of the season in order to correspond with what&#039;s going on between them on the island?  Or, worse: is Sun dead?  Think about it: up until &quot;Sundown,&quot; the episodes ran parallel to Season One, both in terms of characters being explored and plotting.  So &quot;Sundown&quot; shouldn&#039;t have been a Sayid ep -- it should have corresponded with Sun/Jin.  But Sun was nowhere to be seen... is it even possible that the title of the episode is a play on the two of them, and that it describes the fact that in the sideways universe, Sun has actually been killed (&quot;Sun = down&quot;)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gab and mlawski: as for more Arzt irony, someone on one of the other umpteen recaps I read made the (abstract) connection that Arzt in sideways-2004 is using outdated equipment from the 1950s; in regular 2004/2007, the Others are using outdated equipment from the 1950s (i.e., everything they took from the U.S. military when they came to the island).</p>
<p>@jimp: as for Jin and Sun in the alt-universe&#8230; is it possible that Jin&#8217;s search for Sun will last most of the season in order to correspond with what&#8217;s going on between them on the island?  Or, worse: is Sun dead?  Think about it: up until &#8220;Sundown,&#8221; the episodes ran parallel to Season One, both in terms of characters being explored and plotting.  So &#8220;Sundown&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t have been a Sayid ep &#8212; it should have corresponded with Sun/Jin.  But Sun was nowhere to be seen&#8230; is it even possible that the title of the episode is a play on the two of them, and that it describes the fact that in the sideways universe, Sun has actually been killed (&#8220;Sun = down&#8221;)?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom P</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/03/15/overthinking-lost-14/#comment-15920</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a little more satisfied by Sundown then everyone else seems to be.  I liked that for most of the series, we were led to believe that Sayid was a good person who was forced to do bad things by circumstance.  I think the reveal in this episode that he&#039;s really just a bad person pretending to be good.  I mean, three distinct times in the series he goes back to his bad ways.  Once when he tortures Sawyer for the medicine, once when he (I think) tortures Ben in the Hatch, and once when he just blindly starts killing people at Ben&#039;s word.

I think the &quot;alternate look&quot; in the second timeline is that Sayid doesn&#039;t have to discover that he&#039;s a bad person trying to be good.  He just knows he&#039;s a bad person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a little more satisfied by Sundown then everyone else seems to be.  I liked that for most of the series, we were led to believe that Sayid was a good person who was forced to do bad things by circumstance.  I think the reveal in this episode that he&#8217;s really just a bad person pretending to be good.  I mean, three distinct times in the series he goes back to his bad ways.  Once when he tortures Sawyer for the medicine, once when he (I think) tortures Ben in the Hatch, and once when he just blindly starts killing people at Ben&#8217;s word.</p>
<p>I think the &#8220;alternate look&#8221; in the second timeline is that Sayid doesn&#8217;t have to discover that he&#8217;s a bad person trying to be good.  He just knows he&#8217;s a bad person.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimbo Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/03/15/overthinking-lost-14/#comment-15919</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimbo Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d have felt better if Sayid arranged the killing of his own brother? Harsh dude. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d have felt better if Sayid arranged the killing of his own brother? Harsh dude. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Gab</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/03/15/overthinking-lost-14/#comment-15916</link>
		<dc:creator>Gab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize this is probably underthinking a bit, but, for me, that same-old-same-old was probably why I felt unsatisfied by &quot;Sundown,&quot; too.  But I don&#039;t think it came from a lack of irony, per say, just that I am goddamned sick of Sayid always ending up doing a Bad Thing in the name of some Good all the bloody time.  I groaned out of frustration/emotional exhaustion, &quot;Aaaw, SayIIIIID!&quot; when he shot Keamy the way you groan at a kid for doing something naughty for the umpteenth time.  Like, &quot;Really?  REALLY?  You&#039;re gonna do *that*?&quot; That feeling isn&#039;t about irony, I think, because altaSayid knew just as well as I, as a viewer, knew how he&#039;s constantly doing bad and can never seem to catch a break.  I think Sayid and I alike are tired of it.  In that sense, it&#039;s sort of nice to have some camaraderie with the poor sap.  

Was there irony in how alternaWhat&#039;shisname (the science teacher) was complaining about stains on his shirt, while in the original timeline, he WAS a stain on peoples&#039; shirts?  And further, from out-dated equipment vs. outdated explosives.  I chuckled to myself during that little bit.

Call me crazy, but I actually thought the, &quot;You can have mine,&quot; part between the two teachers was kind of important, too.  Whether it was to just shut the guy up or out of a feeling of guilt for not delivering what was promised, alternaBen still did something out-of-sync with original Ben by giving up that space.  Original Ben would have told him to zip it or given him a, &quot;Sucks to be you, du&#039;n&#039; it?&quot; look/shrug and gone on his way if a plan of any kind didn&#039;t work out and someone was giving him a hard time for it.  Then again, Original Ben would also have figured out a way to *make* it work, like having the principal write the letter and then going after him later- and, actually, *that* was what I was sort of anticipating for a little bit, some sort of twist at the end to show how Ben actually did go after the principal.  The fact that it didn&#039;t happen, does, indeed, make it more satisfying, or at least satisfying in a different way.  I guess, for me, the &quot;same old Ben&quot; doesn&#039;t get old because it&#039;s not depressing to watch like Sayid&#039;s- his shows a badass that can talk his way out of or into anything, a master manipulator at work, basically the exact OPPOSITE of Sayid in a lot of ways.  Sayid is totally powerless in so many ways that watching his episodes is like rubbernecking or watching a train wreck- it hurts, but is unavoidable.  So I think I still would have felt &quot;satisfied&quot; if alternaBen had pulled it off, since it wouldn&#039;t have hurt my soul as much as seeing Sayid do the same things he always does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize this is probably underthinking a bit, but, for me, that same-old-same-old was probably why I felt unsatisfied by &#8220;Sundown,&#8221; too.  But I don&#8217;t think it came from a lack of irony, per say, just that I am goddamned sick of Sayid always ending up doing a Bad Thing in the name of some Good all the bloody time.  I groaned out of frustration/emotional exhaustion, &#8220;Aaaw, SayIIIIID!&#8221; when he shot Keamy the way you groan at a kid for doing something naughty for the umpteenth time.  Like, &#8220;Really?  REALLY?  You&#8217;re gonna do *that*?&#8221; That feeling isn&#8217;t about irony, I think, because altaSayid knew just as well as I, as a viewer, knew how he&#8217;s constantly doing bad and can never seem to catch a break.  I think Sayid and I alike are tired of it.  In that sense, it&#8217;s sort of nice to have some camaraderie with the poor sap.  </p>
<p>Was there irony in how alternaWhat&#8217;shisname (the science teacher) was complaining about stains on his shirt, while in the original timeline, he WAS a stain on peoples&#8217; shirts?  And further, from out-dated equipment vs. outdated explosives.  I chuckled to myself during that little bit.</p>
<p>Call me crazy, but I actually thought the, &#8220;You can have mine,&#8221; part between the two teachers was kind of important, too.  Whether it was to just shut the guy up or out of a feeling of guilt for not delivering what was promised, alternaBen still did something out-of-sync with original Ben by giving up that space.  Original Ben would have told him to zip it or given him a, &#8220;Sucks to be you, du&#8217;n&#8217; it?&#8221; look/shrug and gone on his way if a plan of any kind didn&#8217;t work out and someone was giving him a hard time for it.  Then again, Original Ben would also have figured out a way to *make* it work, like having the principal write the letter and then going after him later- and, actually, *that* was what I was sort of anticipating for a little bit, some sort of twist at the end to show how Ben actually did go after the principal.  The fact that it didn&#8217;t happen, does, indeed, make it more satisfying, or at least satisfying in a different way.  I guess, for me, the &#8220;same old Ben&#8221; doesn&#8217;t get old because it&#8217;s not depressing to watch like Sayid&#8217;s- his shows a badass that can talk his way out of or into anything, a master manipulator at work, basically the exact OPPOSITE of Sayid in a lot of ways.  Sayid is totally powerless in so many ways that watching his episodes is like rubbernecking or watching a train wreck- it hurts, but is unavoidable.  So I think I still would have felt &#8220;satisfied&#8221; if alternaBen had pulled it off, since it wouldn&#8217;t have hurt my soul as much as seeing Sayid do the same things he always does.</p>
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		<title>By: jimp</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/03/15/overthinking-lost-14/#comment-15912</link>
		<dc:creator>jimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think (and this is a point I made in the Open Thread) that conclusions are being jumped to before all the facts are in.  Just because Sayid &quot;murdered&quot; at the end of &#039;Sundown&#039;, that wasn&#039;t the final moment of the story, remember?  It ended with Sayid hearing a noise and investigating, then finding Jin tied up in a storage room.  Now this story hasn&#039;t been fully played out yet, but i&#039;m betting that we&#039;re supposed to think that Jin would have been killed without Sayid&#039;s intervention and that Sayid therefore saved his life - and of course if he hadn&#039;t killed Keamy and the others he probably wouldn&#039;t have known anything about Sideways-locked-up Jin.  So even though he is still a &quot;murderer&quot; in the alt-2007 world, his actions inadvertently saved good-ol&#039;-Jin, a character the viewers believe has achieved redemption and deserves to live and be reunited with Sun.  Whereas on the island he murdered Dogen and his lackey in order to bring chaos and destruction to all his previous friends.  Isn&#039;t there irony in there somewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think (and this is a point I made in the Open Thread) that conclusions are being jumped to before all the facts are in.  Just because Sayid &#8220;murdered&#8221; at the end of &#8216;Sundown&#8217;, that wasn&#8217;t the final moment of the story, remember?  It ended with Sayid hearing a noise and investigating, then finding Jin tied up in a storage room.  Now this story hasn&#8217;t been fully played out yet, but i&#8217;m betting that we&#8217;re supposed to think that Jin would have been killed without Sayid&#8217;s intervention and that Sayid therefore saved his life &#8211; and of course if he hadn&#8217;t killed Keamy and the others he probably wouldn&#8217;t have known anything about Sideways-locked-up Jin.  So even though he is still a &#8220;murderer&#8221; in the alt-2007 world, his actions inadvertently saved good-ol&#8217;-Jin, a character the viewers believe has achieved redemption and deserves to live and be reunited with Sun.  Whereas on the island he murdered Dogen and his lackey in order to bring chaos and destruction to all his previous friends.  Isn&#8217;t there irony in there somewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Nateiums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nateiums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, while I agree that Sayid&#039;s episode didn&#039;t fall into the same thematic round hole as well, maybe that was the point. To show that fate still has some hand at play despite the strongest resistance against it. Honestly, I don&#039;t think I could have bought a storyline where the character took the high road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, while I agree that Sayid&#8217;s episode didn&#8217;t fall into the same thematic round hole as well, maybe that was the point. To show that fate still has some hand at play despite the strongest resistance against it. Honestly, I don&#8217;t think I could have bought a storyline where the character took the high road.</p>
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