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		<title>By: Matthew Belinkie</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/02/11/clone-wars/#comment-15457</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Belinkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Diana and Others - Okay, I got carried away in the article. Yeah, I know the originals ARE available on DVD... but only as an extra if you buy the Special Editions. You can&#039;t avoid buying the special editions. And the key thing for me is, the original versions you get are letterboxed, not anamorphic. No need to explain what that means here - basically, the original versions are presented in a DVD format that is outdated and clearly inferior. So Lucas will let you have them, but he&#039;s giving you the same old transfer he used for the laserdisc edition. They will look pretty shoddy on your high def TV.

To me, the real test will come when Star Wars finally makes the jump to Blue Ray. Will Lucas issue the originals as well, as part of some deluxe package? Or is he counting on the fact that, after the last ten years, more and more people are happy to accept his special editions as the definitive versions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Diana and Others &#8211; Okay, I got carried away in the article. Yeah, I know the originals ARE available on DVD&#8230; but only as an extra if you buy the Special Editions. You can&#8217;t avoid buying the special editions. And the key thing for me is, the original versions you get are letterboxed, not anamorphic. No need to explain what that means here &#8211; basically, the original versions are presented in a DVD format that is outdated and clearly inferior. So Lucas will let you have them, but he&#8217;s giving you the same old transfer he used for the laserdisc edition. They will look pretty shoddy on your high def TV.</p>
<p>To me, the real test will come when Star Wars finally makes the jump to Blue Ray. Will Lucas issue the originals as well, as part of some deluxe package? Or is he counting on the fact that, after the last ten years, more and more people are happy to accept his special editions as the definitive versions?</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You *can* buy the originals. They come packaged as &quot;original theatrical releases&quot; with the remakes/re-releases in the DVDs. I bought them for my husband for Xmas 2009. Off Amazon. V. reasonably priced, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You *can* buy the originals. They come packaged as &#8220;original theatrical releases&#8221; with the remakes/re-releases in the DVDs. I bought them for my husband for Xmas 2009. Off Amazon. V. reasonably priced, too.</p>
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		<title>By: HBomb</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/02/11/clone-wars/#comment-15161</link>
		<dc:creator>HBomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is ador(k)able :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is ador(k)able :)</p>
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		<title>By: Gab</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/02/11/clone-wars/#comment-15113</link>
		<dc:creator>Gab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sarielthrawn:  THREE copies of _Phantom Menace_?  I&#039;m sorry.

When was _Clone Wars_ and anything _Clone Wars_ related *not* about profit, though?  I&#039;m about to get anecdotal, so this may sound ramble-tastic- but I do better conveying a point when I give examples.

A friend of mine has a fourteen-year-old son that loves _Star Wars_ and anything related to any episode.   He reads the books, plays the video games, has the ornaments, etc. showed him the first article (about irony that ends with the comparison to Homer) and he immediately was affronted and offended and refused to keep reading after the first couple paragraphs.  But after talking to him about it, I got the impression that he prefers _Clone Wars_ and the newer movies over the old ones (his rationale coming down to things like, &quot;It looks better!&quot;), and that he sort of took the article personal; and in reconsidering all of the merch and stuff that he owns, it&#039;s probably about 2/3 newer stuff; and most of the things based around the original three are hand-me-downs from his mom.  Anakin is his favorite character, and not as Vader.  He enjoys the old stuff, but prefers the new.

I think this kid is exactly what Lucasfilm is trying to do: convert kids nowadays to a new adaptation of the brand that will carry over and through into their adulthood.  If they bond to it now, they&#039;ll still have that strong, sentimental attachment to it when they&#039;re older, regardless of quality (so the &quot;it looks better&quot; argument, while to an adult now sounds ridiculous, is more than enough for a kid, and that bond  forged will remain just as strong as they grow older).  Relying on the niche of original fans to get their kids into it with the same fervor as they themselves is too risky for Lucasfilm because there may not be enough of them into it enough to do that in the first place.  Sure, there are fans in the sense that they enjoy the original films, but how many of those are going to actively make sure their kids see them?  No, much safer for Lucasfilm&#039;s pocketbooks to give kids their *own* _Star Wars_ to learn to love and thus purchase.  Belinkie, in all honesty, I admire your loyalty to the original, but I don&#039;t know how many other parents would try to protect their kids from the newer stuff- you&#039;re the first oldschool fan I&#039;ve heard of to do that.  The reactions to new-fandom on the part of kids I&#039;ve seen from their parents (that are oldschool) have always been along the lines of, &quot;Meh, well, it&#039;s still _Star Wars_, at least, right?&quot;  (That&#039;s actually a quote from my friend, the mother, but the gist is the same every time).  Kind of a defeat or resignation- it&#039;s *something*.  And I think Lucasfilm and anybody involved there knows this is what would happen, so they  bank on it, both literally and metaphorically.  I&#039;m not saying your thesis, that the thrusting of the newer stuff in to the merch is intentional- I&#039;m just adding a little nuance to why.  Part of why Lucasfilm knows Mom and Dad will buy it comes from the fact that it&#039;s at least distantly related to what Mom and Dad loved in their own youth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sarielthrawn:  THREE copies of _Phantom Menace_?  I&#8217;m sorry.</p>
<p>When was _Clone Wars_ and anything _Clone Wars_ related *not* about profit, though?  I&#8217;m about to get anecdotal, so this may sound ramble-tastic- but I do better conveying a point when I give examples.</p>
<p>A friend of mine has a fourteen-year-old son that loves _Star Wars_ and anything related to any episode.   He reads the books, plays the video games, has the ornaments, etc. showed him the first article (about irony that ends with the comparison to Homer) and he immediately was affronted and offended and refused to keep reading after the first couple paragraphs.  But after talking to him about it, I got the impression that he prefers _Clone Wars_ and the newer movies over the old ones (his rationale coming down to things like, &#8220;It looks better!&#8221;), and that he sort of took the article personal; and in reconsidering all of the merch and stuff that he owns, it&#8217;s probably about 2/3 newer stuff; and most of the things based around the original three are hand-me-downs from his mom.  Anakin is his favorite character, and not as Vader.  He enjoys the old stuff, but prefers the new.</p>
<p>I think this kid is exactly what Lucasfilm is trying to do: convert kids nowadays to a new adaptation of the brand that will carry over and through into their adulthood.  If they bond to it now, they&#8217;ll still have that strong, sentimental attachment to it when they&#8217;re older, regardless of quality (so the &#8220;it looks better&#8221; argument, while to an adult now sounds ridiculous, is more than enough for a kid, and that bond  forged will remain just as strong as they grow older).  Relying on the niche of original fans to get their kids into it with the same fervor as they themselves is too risky for Lucasfilm because there may not be enough of them into it enough to do that in the first place.  Sure, there are fans in the sense that they enjoy the original films, but how many of those are going to actively make sure their kids see them?  No, much safer for Lucasfilm&#8217;s pocketbooks to give kids their *own* _Star Wars_ to learn to love and thus purchase.  Belinkie, in all honesty, I admire your loyalty to the original, but I don&#8217;t know how many other parents would try to protect their kids from the newer stuff- you&#8217;re the first oldschool fan I&#8217;ve heard of to do that.  The reactions to new-fandom on the part of kids I&#8217;ve seen from their parents (that are oldschool) have always been along the lines of, &#8220;Meh, well, it&#8217;s still _Star Wars_, at least, right?&#8221;  (That&#8217;s actually a quote from my friend, the mother, but the gist is the same every time).  Kind of a defeat or resignation- it&#8217;s *something*.  And I think Lucasfilm and anybody involved there knows this is what would happen, so they  bank on it, both literally and metaphorically.  I&#8217;m not saying your thesis, that the thrusting of the newer stuff in to the merch is intentional- I&#8217;m just adding a little nuance to why.  Part of why Lucasfilm knows Mom and Dad will buy it comes from the fact that it&#8217;s at least distantly related to what Mom and Dad loved in their own youth.</p>
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		<title>By: sarielthrawn</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/02/11/clone-wars/#comment-15092</link>
		<dc:creator>sarielthrawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lisa - I have that DVD set. I remember it being a limited time offer release. The quality isn&#039;t as good but the movies are the way they should be. Although it means that I now have three copies of the Phantom Menace. I guess that&#039;s the price you pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lisa &#8211; I have that DVD set. I remember it being a limited time offer release. The quality isn&#8217;t as good but the movies are the way they should be. Although it means that I now have three copies of the Phantom Menace. I guess that&#8217;s the price you pay.</p>
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		<title>By: none295</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/02/11/clone-wars/#comment-15090</link>
		<dc:creator>none295</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if it&#039;s about corrupting children or keeping the corrupted adults continuing the corruption.

Since Star Wars can be manipulated to sway cultural momentums, sometimes it might be worth reviewing how things got that way.  This odd video mixtape about, as they describe it, the recorded perception of the SW phenomenon at the time of the release of the last theatrical movie, is a beginning to a conversation into the themes of memes of culture viewed through the Star Wars glasses.
http://www.noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM_Video.html
As the final Star Wars movie was released, US Governmental bodies pushed for more restrictions to internet usage.  (just this month they&#039;ve continued their lobbying to force ISPs to record 2 years of people&#039;s destinations: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10448060-38.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1)  But in 2005, because of the Revenge of the Sith leak, the FBI/ICE through recently installed Congressional legislature and a newly installed Assistant Attorney General was able to jail and fine several US citizens.  A year later George himself would be in Congress pushing for Free Unlimited internet access to all schools and libraries.  Also in the time frame of the release of Sith, George&#039;s company cease and desisted an individual who reused the Revenge of the Sith trailer to have 133t subtitles.  A few years later that same company allowed Star Wars Uncut to have the entire first Star Wars movie available on the website.  Yes things are changing quickly, and many of these decisions might still make sense.
http://www.noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM_FAQ.html
Has more info on this abomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if it&#8217;s about corrupting children or keeping the corrupted adults continuing the corruption.</p>
<p>Since Star Wars can be manipulated to sway cultural momentums, sometimes it might be worth reviewing how things got that way.  This odd video mixtape about, as they describe it, the recorded perception of the SW phenomenon at the time of the release of the last theatrical movie, is a beginning to a conversation into the themes of memes of culture viewed through the Star Wars glasses.<br />
<a href="http://www.noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM_Video.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM_Video.html</a><br />
As the final Star Wars movie was released, US Governmental bodies pushed for more restrictions to internet usage.  (just this month they&#8217;ve continued their lobbying to force ISPs to record 2 years of people&#8217;s destinations: <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10448060-38.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1" rel="nofollow">http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10448060-38.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1</a>)  But in 2005, because of the Revenge of the Sith leak, the FBI/ICE through recently installed Congressional legislature and a newly installed Assistant Attorney General was able to jail and fine several US citizens.  A year later George himself would be in Congress pushing for Free Unlimited internet access to all schools and libraries.  Also in the time frame of the release of Sith, George&#8217;s company cease and desisted an individual who reused the Revenge of the Sith trailer to have 133t subtitles.  A few years later that same company allowed Star Wars Uncut to have the entire first Star Wars movie available on the website.  Yes things are changing quickly, and many of these decisions might still make sense.<br />
<a href="http://www.noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM_FAQ.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.noneinc.com/tBSWM/tBSWM_FAQ.html</a><br />
Has more info on this abomination.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom P</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/02/11/clone-wars/#comment-15080</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry... it&#039;s almost assured that Lucasfilm will release a 3D version of the movies (possibly to theaters) after the success of Avatar.  Then the old toys will be available again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry&#8230; it&#8217;s almost assured that Lucasfilm will release a 3D version of the movies (possibly to theaters) after the success of Avatar.  Then the old toys will be available again.</p>
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		<title>By: RiderIon</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/02/11/clone-wars/#comment-15078</link>
		<dc:creator>RiderIon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is entirely a marketing decision on Lucasfilm part and they&#039;re entirely correct about competing for shelf space with themselves in the brick and mortar stores where I can assume most of their sales come from. The Clone Wars TV show is on now and is still producing new episodes and I assume is generating a nice chunk of revenue for Cartoon Network and Lucasfilm. Why would a major retailer stock Millenium Falcon and Luke Skywalker toys over Grevious&#039; ship (the name escapes me) and Anakin Skywalker toys when the kids are watching the new product? There is a much smaller niche market for the original trilogy that major retailers aren&#039;t going to cater to. 

That&#039;s not to say that the original trilogy is going to eventually disappear. I remember several years ago when Lucasfilm announced they were going to do Clone Wars and a live action Star Wars show that would be episodic in nature covering various things including Boba Fett&#039;s escape from the sarlac pit. They at least seem to willing to throw us a bone once and awhile to keep us placated. But then again...I&#039;m still waiting for that show, damnit. 

On a side note, Jon Stewart had a very interesting interview with George Lucas a few weeks ago and it should still be available on The Daily Show&#039;s website. It was very eye opening to the generation gap in terms of original versus new trilogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is entirely a marketing decision on Lucasfilm part and they&#8217;re entirely correct about competing for shelf space with themselves in the brick and mortar stores where I can assume most of their sales come from. The Clone Wars TV show is on now and is still producing new episodes and I assume is generating a nice chunk of revenue for Cartoon Network and Lucasfilm. Why would a major retailer stock Millenium Falcon and Luke Skywalker toys over Grevious&#8217; ship (the name escapes me) and Anakin Skywalker toys when the kids are watching the new product? There is a much smaller niche market for the original trilogy that major retailers aren&#8217;t going to cater to. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that the original trilogy is going to eventually disappear. I remember several years ago when Lucasfilm announced they were going to do Clone Wars and a live action Star Wars show that would be episodic in nature covering various things including Boba Fett&#8217;s escape from the sarlac pit. They at least seem to willing to throw us a bone once and awhile to keep us placated. But then again&#8230;I&#8217;m still waiting for that show, damnit. </p>
<p>On a side note, Jon Stewart had a very interesting interview with George Lucas a few weeks ago and it should still be available on The Daily Show&#8217;s website. It was very eye opening to the generation gap in terms of original versus new trilogy.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/02/11/clone-wars/#comment-15077</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, you CAN buy DVDs of the original trilogy, though I think they come with DVDs of the &quot;special editions&quot; as well. They are also reportedly not of as good quality, since it seems like Lucas is saying &quot;If you want it, you can have it, but I&#039;m not doing anything to it, you ungrateful fans, you.&quot; Which is frustrating, being a fan who&#039;s spent LOTS of money on SW toys, games, etc!

I personally think there&#039;s a huge untapped market of original trilogy items. People love dressing up as storm troopers, but to do so, you have to make your own or buy it from a fellow fan who learned to make it themselves. You could at one point buy SW rollerblades, but only if you had child-sized feet. (I don&#039;t know that I ever did, even as a child!) 

And daaaaang, I really want that Cloud City lamp! It looks great, and it wouldn&#039;t be so obvious if you didn&#039;t like the series, but it would brand you right away to other fans, and ... there&#039;s totally a market here. Why, George? Why????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, you CAN buy DVDs of the original trilogy, though I think they come with DVDs of the &#8220;special editions&#8221; as well. They are also reportedly not of as good quality, since it seems like Lucas is saying &#8220;If you want it, you can have it, but I&#8217;m not doing anything to it, you ungrateful fans, you.&#8221; Which is frustrating, being a fan who&#8217;s spent LOTS of money on SW toys, games, etc!</p>
<p>I personally think there&#8217;s a huge untapped market of original trilogy items. People love dressing up as storm troopers, but to do so, you have to make your own or buy it from a fellow fan who learned to make it themselves. You could at one point buy SW rollerblades, but only if you had child-sized feet. (I don&#8217;t know that I ever did, even as a child!) </p>
<p>And daaaaang, I really want that Cloud City lamp! It looks great, and it wouldn&#8217;t be so obvious if you didn&#8217;t like the series, but it would brand you right away to other fans, and &#8230; there&#8217;s totally a market here. Why, George? Why????</p>
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