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		<title>By: Robert Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ads fit entirely in the third category, to some extent, but actually has a rational appeal:

1. I see people enjoying a product despite its ridiculous side-effects.
Therefore, it must have a really high benefit.

2. I know I can enjoy that product without the ridiculous side-effects, because I&#039;m not an idiot who gets fooled by an animal.

3. On the cost/benefit scale, I get the same high benefit without the same high cost. Ergo, it is a worthwhile purchase.

In this sense, it isn&#039;t so much an appeal to the Id as it is an appeal to the rational side that only wants to buy things of high value with a good cost/benefit ratio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ads fit entirely in the third category, to some extent, but actually has a rational appeal:</p>
<p>1. I see people enjoying a product despite its ridiculous side-effects.<br />
Therefore, it must have a really high benefit.</p>
<p>2. I know I can enjoy that product without the ridiculous side-effects, because I&#8217;m not an idiot who gets fooled by an animal.</p>
<p>3. On the cost/benefit scale, I get the same high benefit without the same high cost. Ergo, it is a worthwhile purchase.</p>
<p>In this sense, it isn&#8217;t so much an appeal to the Id as it is an appeal to the rational side that only wants to buy things of high value with a good cost/benefit ratio.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I know is, the Saints won. And that seriously impairs my ability to overthink anything. In fact, my feet are kinda chilly; I wonder if Hell is starting its freezing-over process now, or are they just waiting for the first of the month after the catalyst event?

The only ads I even remember were the Boost Mobile Shuffle and the Google ad. The rest were just white noise. And I remember thinking &quot;Why did the fricking Census Bureau pay $2.5 million of OUR money for a Superbowl ad?&quot; But I don&#039;t remember the actual content of the ad. Blah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know is, the Saints won. And that seriously impairs my ability to overthink anything. In fact, my feet are kinda chilly; I wonder if Hell is starting its freezing-over process now, or are they just waiting for the first of the month after the catalyst event?</p>
<p>The only ads I even remember were the Boost Mobile Shuffle and the Google ad. The rest were just white noise. And I remember thinking &#8220;Why did the fricking Census Bureau pay $2.5 million of OUR money for a Superbowl ad?&#8221; But I don&#8217;t remember the actual content of the ad. Blah.</p>
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		<title>By: Gab</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/02/09/bad-things-happen-to-you-when-you-use-our-product/#comment-15025</link>
		<dc:creator>Gab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the Doritos ads, first: They were actually fan-made and submitted.  Doritos ran a contest, people could go to the website and vote for their favorites, and the top four would be played during the Super Bowl.  I can&#039;t remember if any others aired, but the four winners were that dog one, the one referenced in the Podcast with the shuriken-Dorito, the one with the kid telling his mom&#039;s date off, and the one with the guy in the casket. 

And those Tebow ads were definitely pro-life- there was a stir/stink beforehand, and Planned Parenthood went so far as to put up its own response online before the Super Bowl (and thus the ads themselves) even aired (officially). 

@Bob: That Google commercial made me tear up a bit- granted, I&#039;m a rather easy cry, but I&#039;d agree with you in that it was the one that I felt most affected by.

Part of the appeal of Super Bowl ads nowadays is that we *expect* them to be over-the-top.  And the more &quot;out there&quot; they are, the &quot;better&quot; they get rated as.  When it comes to the Super Bowl ads, I think the companies are in a competition with each other to make the most memorable commercial possible- so I suppose it has to do with the branding Lisa mentioned up at the top of the comments.  And I think this permeates into regular advertising in general, too.  The ads that &quot;stay with you&quot; are the ones that are effective, be it positively OR negatively.  Context and prior knowledge sometimes has influence (I mean, really, I am SO not buying into Toyota&#039;s ads about how they&#039;re fixing things, given how they just admitted there are MORE problems in MORE cars today- I&#039;d rather avoid a Toyota now, thanks).  There is often brand recognition in the commercials themselves, even, and I&#039;d also argue that sometimes the ads that seem the LEAST connected to the product are the most memorable *because* whatever is happening in the ad is so unrelated.  &quot;WTF does that have to do with soda?!&quot; and you sit and ponder it for a while, ergo pondering the brand, etc. 

I guess I&#039;m kind of rambling, but my point is &quot;out there&quot; sticks in the brain, and the ads where bad things happen seem to me as though they aren&#039;t really meant to show what actually happens.  They&#039;re assuming we suspend our disbelief in phenomenal proportions and reveling in that experience, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Doritos ads, first: They were actually fan-made and submitted.  Doritos ran a contest, people could go to the website and vote for their favorites, and the top four would be played during the Super Bowl.  I can&#8217;t remember if any others aired, but the four winners were that dog one, the one referenced in the Podcast with the shuriken-Dorito, the one with the kid telling his mom&#8217;s date off, and the one with the guy in the casket. </p>
<p>And those Tebow ads were definitely pro-life- there was a stir/stink beforehand, and Planned Parenthood went so far as to put up its own response online before the Super Bowl (and thus the ads themselves) even aired (officially). </p>
<p>@Bob: That Google commercial made me tear up a bit- granted, I&#8217;m a rather easy cry, but I&#8217;d agree with you in that it was the one that I felt most affected by.</p>
<p>Part of the appeal of Super Bowl ads nowadays is that we *expect* them to be over-the-top.  And the more &#8220;out there&#8221; they are, the &#8220;better&#8221; they get rated as.  When it comes to the Super Bowl ads, I think the companies are in a competition with each other to make the most memorable commercial possible- so I suppose it has to do with the branding Lisa mentioned up at the top of the comments.  And I think this permeates into regular advertising in general, too.  The ads that &#8220;stay with you&#8221; are the ones that are effective, be it positively OR negatively.  Context and prior knowledge sometimes has influence (I mean, really, I am SO not buying into Toyota&#8217;s ads about how they&#8217;re fixing things, given how they just admitted there are MORE problems in MORE cars today- I&#8217;d rather avoid a Toyota now, thanks).  There is often brand recognition in the commercials themselves, even, and I&#8217;d also argue that sometimes the ads that seem the LEAST connected to the product are the most memorable *because* whatever is happening in the ad is so unrelated.  &#8220;WTF does that have to do with soda?!&#8221; and you sit and ponder it for a while, ergo pondering the brand, etc. </p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m kind of rambling, but my point is &#8220;out there&#8221; sticks in the brain, and the ads where bad things happen seem to me as though they aren&#8217;t really meant to show what actually happens.  They&#8217;re assuming we suspend our disbelief in phenomenal proportions and reveling in that experience, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the Tim Tebow ad? What the hell was that? I&#039;m still not sure if they&#039;re trying to sell us on anti-abortion or tackle football with your parents (neither of which I can support)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Tim Tebow ad? What the hell was that? I&#8217;m still not sure if they&#8217;re trying to sell us on anti-abortion or tackle football with your parents (neither of which I can support)</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;m waiting for the day when an advertising genius can somehow work explosions, hot women, and hot women against a backdrop of multiple explosions into an ad for toilet paper.

The GoDaddy ads featuring Danica Patrick (someone whose attractivness is negated for me because of the fact that the ads insist that she is a hottie, thus making me suspicious about it) are a great example of something that should work, but doesn&#039;t (at least not for me). Guys, you&#039;re with me on the whole &quot;hot girls making out&quot; appeal, right? Now say that you get an ad where this is not only hinted at, but guarenteed when you visit a particular website. This is the greatest thing since sliced bread, isn&#039;t it? Yet for some reason, I feel a little insulted, as if I recognize the crass appeal to my lower instincts (oh, girls making out) for what it is: a shameless plug for a website that might cuase me more grief than pleasure. Sex does sell, but not when it&#039;s omnipresent (at least I feel that way, I&#039;m guessing I might get some disagreement here). It&#039;s simply a case of &quot;too much of a good thing,&quot; as well as the fact that I don&#039;t find Danica all that &quot;hot&quot; in terms of her status as a cultural figure. 

The Letteman/Leno ad was basically an uneasy truce along the lines of every attempt to bring peace between Palestine and Israel, but it was unexpected and didn&#039;t wear out its welcome. That one takes the cake for me in what was an underwhelming Super Bowl commerical edition (the game wasn&#039;t half-bad either, come to think of it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;m waiting for the day when an advertising genius can somehow work explosions, hot women, and hot women against a backdrop of multiple explosions into an ad for toilet paper.</p>
<p>The GoDaddy ads featuring Danica Patrick (someone whose attractivness is negated for me because of the fact that the ads insist that she is a hottie, thus making me suspicious about it) are a great example of something that should work, but doesn&#8217;t (at least not for me). Guys, you&#8217;re with me on the whole &#8220;hot girls making out&#8221; appeal, right? Now say that you get an ad where this is not only hinted at, but guarenteed when you visit a particular website. This is the greatest thing since sliced bread, isn&#8217;t it? Yet for some reason, I feel a little insulted, as if I recognize the crass appeal to my lower instincts (oh, girls making out) for what it is: a shameless plug for a website that might cuase me more grief than pleasure. Sex does sell, but not when it&#8217;s omnipresent (at least I feel that way, I&#8217;m guessing I might get some disagreement here). It&#8217;s simply a case of &#8220;too much of a good thing,&#8221; as well as the fact that I don&#8217;t find Danica all that &#8220;hot&#8221; in terms of her status as a cultural figure. </p>
<p>The Letteman/Leno ad was basically an uneasy truce along the lines of every attempt to bring peace between Palestine and Israel, but it was unexpected and didn&#8217;t wear out its welcome. That one takes the cake for me in what was an underwhelming Super Bowl commerical edition (the game wasn&#8217;t half-bad either, come to think of it).</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally all advertising I put in four categories:

1) &quot;White Noise&quot; - the biggest category for me, this is where I see an add that elicits Zero response.  I&#039;d say 90% of ads fall into this, including most &quot;Water Cooler&quot; commercials.

2) &quot;What, What, What&quot; - These are commercials I see and I want to see again.  Whether it is the Google Commercial (Which I believe to be one of the best commercials ever - it correctly assumes everyone knows and uses their products and tells a story in a simple way that elicits an emotional response from just words and music.  Brilliant!) or the David Letterman (Was that Leno!).  Having a marketing degree, I like to see an ad with something that is fresh or new.

3) &quot;Things that make you go Hmm&quot; - I&#039;d say once every few months, I&#039;ll see a commercial that actually make me want that product.  Most of the time, it is something I already like but forgot about or there is a new flavor to it (&quot;Chili Cheese Cheetos, hmm.  I&#039;ll have to get&quot;).  Every now and then I&#039;ll see a movie based on its trailer/commercial (Shutter Island was so bad, Paramount moved it from Oscar contender to February, but with DiCaprio, Scorsese and an interesting Trailer, I want to see it)

4) &quot;Get in the back and make me a Whopper!&quot; - Commercials so bad, I never want to purchase the product again.  I can only recall when Burger King had the &#039;If we get rid of the Whopper, our slack jawed clientele would be too stupid to order anything else from the menu&#039; commercials to cite, but there are several things I won&#039;t purchase just because of my disrespect for its consumers in how they market to them.

Just my two cents, for what its worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally all advertising I put in four categories:</p>
<p>1) &#8220;White Noise&#8221; &#8211; the biggest category for me, this is where I see an add that elicits Zero response.  I&#8217;d say 90% of ads fall into this, including most &#8220;Water Cooler&#8221; commercials.</p>
<p>2) &#8220;What, What, What&#8221; &#8211; These are commercials I see and I want to see again.  Whether it is the Google Commercial (Which I believe to be one of the best commercials ever &#8211; it correctly assumes everyone knows and uses their products and tells a story in a simple way that elicits an emotional response from just words and music.  Brilliant!) or the David Letterman (Was that Leno!).  Having a marketing degree, I like to see an ad with something that is fresh or new.</p>
<p>3) &#8220;Things that make you go Hmm&#8221; &#8211; I&#8217;d say once every few months, I&#8217;ll see a commercial that actually make me want that product.  Most of the time, it is something I already like but forgot about or there is a new flavor to it (&#8220;Chili Cheese Cheetos, hmm.  I&#8217;ll have to get&#8221;).  Every now and then I&#8217;ll see a movie based on its trailer/commercial (Shutter Island was so bad, Paramount moved it from Oscar contender to February, but with DiCaprio, Scorsese and an interesting Trailer, I want to see it)</p>
<p>4) &#8220;Get in the back and make me a Whopper!&#8221; &#8211; Commercials so bad, I never want to purchase the product again.  I can only recall when Burger King had the &#8216;If we get rid of the Whopper, our slack jawed clientele would be too stupid to order anything else from the menu&#8217; commercials to cite, but there are several things I won&#8217;t purchase just because of my disrespect for its consumers in how they market to them.</p>
<p>Just my two cents, for what its worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Hazbaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hazbaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, like Lisa, that these ads are less about the message in them as they are about Brand Recognition. The advertisers aren&#039;t trying to sell the product, they are trying to get you talking about the advert.
Take this ad for Cadbury&#039;s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy52yueBX_s&amp;
It&#039;s not about the product at all, it&#039;s more about the discussions that follow such a non-sequitur. This may be an indication that consumers are much more sophiscated about advertising techniques these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, like Lisa, that these ads are less about the message in them as they are about Brand Recognition. The advertisers aren&#8217;t trying to sell the product, they are trying to get you talking about the advert.<br />
Take this ad for Cadbury&#8217;s:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy52yueBX_s&#038;amp" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy52yueBX_s&#038;amp</a>;<br />
It&#8217;s not about the product at all, it&#8217;s more about the discussions that follow such a non-sequitur. This may be an indication that consumers are much more sophiscated about advertising techniques these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Peever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Peever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the case of the Doritos dog, the message I got was, &quot;Even dogs like Doritos, so much that they will play tricks on you to get them.&quot; There are many other examples of commercials where people act aggressively in order to get the advertised product.

I agree that the AXE ad was quite bizarre.  I kind of see where they&#039;re going with it: &quot;You will be as irresistible as chocolate. And you *know* how much women like chocolate, don&#039;t you?&quot; The translation of this idea, though, was not very effective, because it ended up being so downright bizarre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the case of the Doritos dog, the message I got was, &#8220;Even dogs like Doritos, so much that they will play tricks on you to get them.&#8221; There are many other examples of commercials where people act aggressively in order to get the advertised product.</p>
<p>I agree that the AXE ad was quite bizarre.  I kind of see where they&#8217;re going with it: &#8220;You will be as irresistible as chocolate. And you *know* how much women like chocolate, don&#8217;t you?&#8221; The translation of this idea, though, was not very effective, because it ended up being so downright bizarre.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for pointing this out.  I found the superbowl ads downright depressing this year, so depressing that they ruined my enjoyment of what was really a good football game.

They are probably selling the idea that people love the product so much that using it will cause them to lose control, but even put this way this is a worrying message in the context of the Bud Light ads.  Or it could be the adage that any publicity is bad publicity.  Or people are really expected to behave like Homer Simpson now.

Someone pointed out to me once that television advertising doesn&#039;t directly sell products, what it sells is stupidity.  The idea is that some products (like Bud Light) will only be consumed by really stupid people, so television is used to make people stupider so they will consume more.  I found the ads depressing just because I don&#039;t usually watch TV, my exposure comes mainly from wandering into a bar to watch sports, so I had forgotten about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing this out.  I found the superbowl ads downright depressing this year, so depressing that they ruined my enjoyment of what was really a good football game.</p>
<p>They are probably selling the idea that people love the product so much that using it will cause them to lose control, but even put this way this is a worrying message in the context of the Bud Light ads.  Or it could be the adage that any publicity is bad publicity.  Or people are really expected to behave like Homer Simpson now.</p>
<p>Someone pointed out to me once that television advertising doesn&#8217;t directly sell products, what it sells is stupidity.  The idea is that some products (like Bud Light) will only be consumed by really stupid people, so television is used to make people stupider so they will consume more.  I found the ads depressing just because I don&#8217;t usually watch TV, my exposure comes mainly from wandering into a bar to watch sports, so I had forgotten about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mat the Gambler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mat the Gambler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The explanation is so simple you couldn&#039;t see it. Everyone believes themselves to be immune from the negative consequences of addiction. When a commercial shows a product that is so great it leads other people into self-destructive actions, we believe we can have it both ways. The product must be great because other people are willing to risk anything to have it, but no, I have the self control to use it responsibly.

It helps that most of these products are not actually addictive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The explanation is so simple you couldn&#8217;t see it. Everyone believes themselves to be immune from the negative consequences of addiction. When a commercial shows a product that is so great it leads other people into self-destructive actions, we believe we can have it both ways. The product must be great because other people are willing to risk anything to have it, but no, I have the self control to use it responsibly.</p>
<p>It helps that most of these products are not actually addictive.</p>
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