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		<title>By: blog.knowyourmoney.co.uk &#187; Blog Archive 10 Apocalyptic Insurance Policies (Inspired by Hollywood)</title>
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		<dc:creator>blog.knowyourmoney.co.uk &#187; Blog Archive 10 Apocalyptic Insurance Policies (Inspired by Hollywood)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Insurance specialists advocate comprehensive policies that include combat training and access to undead-proof cruiseships, but since these policies are relatively rare, we suggest finding a provider who offers a speedy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/01/14/zombie-cruise-ship/#comment-14603</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a wonderful, brilliant idea in the sense of escaping the virus.  I do admit you almost have to be filthy rich to ever pull something like this off. For that kind of investment you better be damn sure the outbreak is going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a wonderful, brilliant idea in the sense of escaping the virus.  I do admit you almost have to be filthy rich to ever pull something like this off. For that kind of investment you better be damn sure the outbreak is going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Belinkie</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/01/14/zombie-cruise-ship/#comment-14546</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Belinkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 06:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gab - As usual, G-Dog, you raise some good points. In my mind, I&#039;m kind of hoping the people who buy the zombie insurance have useful professions, like doctors, engineers, or pastry chefs. That way, you not only get $400/mo from each subscriber, you get their skillset. But let&#039;s get real (I do love saying things like that in these kinds of posts). We&#039;re going to wind up with a lot of people on the boat that don&#039;t have any useful skills. I am one of them.

So yes, I suppose we&#039;d have to have an OB-GYN onboard. (Also, about 100,000 condoms.) To make this work, I&#039;d have to make a list of certain indispensable professions - people whose skills are indispensable. For instance, a boat captain might be nice. And a dude who actually knows how to handle guns and can teach the rest of us. Ideally, these people would be on staff - that is, we pay their salaries, in exchange for them helping to get the boat ready. The OB-GYN is a weird case. We don&#039;t actually need her skills until the boat launches. However, we want her within 10 miles of the boat at all times, so we&#039;re relatively sure she&#039;s going to make it onboard. Maybe she can stay in private practice until the zombie apocalypse, but we pay her some sort of retainer to live close to the boat and to carry a zombie beeper.

Anyway, this is the kind of thing that just destroys your budget. For each indispensable crew member you need on staff, you have to pay not only their salary, but you&#039;re sacrificing all the thousands of dollars their stateroom would be worth if you sold that extra insurance policy. And certain highly educated positions, like Solar-Panel Engineer, might be expensive to fill. A lot of your staff members may very well think the job is crazy and a waste of time, which is fine as long as they do their work. They&#039;ll see. Oh yes, they&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gab &#8211; As usual, G-Dog, you raise some good points. In my mind, I&#8217;m kind of hoping the people who buy the zombie insurance have useful professions, like doctors, engineers, or pastry chefs. That way, you not only get $400/mo from each subscriber, you get their skillset. But let&#8217;s get real (I do love saying things like that in these kinds of posts). We&#8217;re going to wind up with a lot of people on the boat that don&#8217;t have any useful skills. I am one of them.</p>
<p>So yes, I suppose we&#8217;d have to have an OB-GYN onboard. (Also, about 100,000 condoms.) To make this work, I&#8217;d have to make a list of certain indispensable professions &#8211; people whose skills are indispensable. For instance, a boat captain might be nice. And a dude who actually knows how to handle guns and can teach the rest of us. Ideally, these people would be on staff &#8211; that is, we pay their salaries, in exchange for them helping to get the boat ready. The OB-GYN is a weird case. We don&#8217;t actually need her skills until the boat launches. However, we want her within 10 miles of the boat at all times, so we&#8217;re relatively sure she&#8217;s going to make it onboard. Maybe she can stay in private practice until the zombie apocalypse, but we pay her some sort of retainer to live close to the boat and to carry a zombie beeper.</p>
<p>Anyway, this is the kind of thing that just destroys your budget. For each indispensable crew member you need on staff, you have to pay not only their salary, but you&#8217;re sacrificing all the thousands of dollars their stateroom would be worth if you sold that extra insurance policy. And certain highly educated positions, like Solar-Panel Engineer, might be expensive to fill. A lot of your staff members may very well think the job is crazy and a waste of time, which is fine as long as they do their work. They&#8217;ll see. Oh yes, they&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Gab</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/01/14/zombie-cruise-ship/#comment-14544</link>
		<dc:creator>Gab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 05:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done, Belinkie.  A few hours before you posted yours, I posted one kind of similar on my own blog about how Hummers are bad after a zombiepocalypse and concluding that airships are the best way to go (for many of your reasons for preferring boats- self-sustaining capabilities, distance from the zombie hoard, renewable energy, etc.).  Your piece is much better, though, I&#039;ll admit fully.  Still, I find it terribly, close to painfully, coincidental, the timing.  I clicked &quot;post,&quot; went to bed, and saw the notice about this piece in my RSS feed the next morning while checking it before work...  But anyhoo, this isn&#039;t about me.

Awesome work here.  So long as it didn&#039;t become an exercise in Poseidon Adventuring, I&#039;d say you&#039;d be pretty set on a cruise ship modified to your specifications.  And I dare say, you could do things to its shape and paint job to make it look more like a military gun ship than a cruise liner in order to scare off the smaller pirate groups, too.  

For some reason, this nugget popped into my head, probably because of the vague discussions about who will be on the ship.  We see stuff about the arks and whatnot in these apocalypse movies, and we sometimes get allusions to the myriad professions secured, doctors being emphasized.  But I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever heard of obstetricians or OB-GYNs being a priority.  And this bothers me, not just because I&#039;m a woman, but because of the sheer fact that these survivors are going to be doing it with each other, so some babies are going to be made.  And if babies are going to be made, they&#039;re going to need to be delivered.  Wouldn&#039;t securing the future of the human race depend, at least partially, on having people skilled enough to bring them into this world close/safe at hand?  

So, Mr. Belinkie, would you make sure there were some OB-GYNs aboard, or would you risk the women die in childbirth?  ;p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done, Belinkie.  A few hours before you posted yours, I posted one kind of similar on my own blog about how Hummers are bad after a zombiepocalypse and concluding that airships are the best way to go (for many of your reasons for preferring boats- self-sustaining capabilities, distance from the zombie hoard, renewable energy, etc.).  Your piece is much better, though, I&#8217;ll admit fully.  Still, I find it terribly, close to painfully, coincidental, the timing.  I clicked &#8220;post,&#8221; went to bed, and saw the notice about this piece in my RSS feed the next morning while checking it before work&#8230;  But anyhoo, this isn&#8217;t about me.</p>
<p>Awesome work here.  So long as it didn&#8217;t become an exercise in Poseidon Adventuring, I&#8217;d say you&#8217;d be pretty set on a cruise ship modified to your specifications.  And I dare say, you could do things to its shape and paint job to make it look more like a military gun ship than a cruise liner in order to scare off the smaller pirate groups, too.  </p>
<p>For some reason, this nugget popped into my head, probably because of the vague discussions about who will be on the ship.  We see stuff about the arks and whatnot in these apocalypse movies, and we sometimes get allusions to the myriad professions secured, doctors being emphasized.  But I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever heard of obstetricians or OB-GYNs being a priority.  And this bothers me, not just because I&#8217;m a woman, but because of the sheer fact that these survivors are going to be doing it with each other, so some babies are going to be made.  And if babies are going to be made, they&#8217;re going to need to be delivered.  Wouldn&#8217;t securing the future of the human race depend, at least partially, on having people skilled enough to bring them into this world close/safe at hand?  </p>
<p>So, Mr. Belinkie, would you make sure there were some OB-GYNs aboard, or would you risk the women die in childbirth?  ;p</p>
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		<title>By: Ret</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/01/14/zombie-cruise-ship/#comment-14525</link>
		<dc:creator>Ret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 04:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think an armada is a pretty sweet idea.  The size of those things in close formation offers pretty good deterent value against pirates. If we can get a fleet going, we can not only keep ourselves completely safe, but we can pull a little offense of our own. I&#039;d love to see the kind of bombardment weaponry that we could cram onto the Lido deck of the &#039;Carnival Pride!&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think an armada is a pretty sweet idea.  The size of those things in close formation offers pretty good deterent value against pirates. If we can get a fleet going, we can not only keep ourselves completely safe, but we can pull a little offense of our own. I&#8217;d love to see the kind of bombardment weaponry that we could cram onto the Lido deck of the &#8216;Carnival Pride!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Zombie news for 1/15/2010 &#124; The Inevitable Zombie Apocalypse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zombie news for 1/15/2010 &#124; The Inevitable Zombie Apocalypse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] man has come up with an amusing business plan for the zombie apocalypse. (Overthinking [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Belinkie</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/01/14/zombie-cruise-ship/#comment-14508</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Belinkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Marinus - Ah, interesting! A network of boats! I&#039;m assuming you suggest they stick together, in general. Pool resources, watch each other&#039;s backs. When things got bad, however, wouldn&#039;t there be a tremendous urge to screw the other boat? I mean, if THEY&#039;RE getting attacked by pirates, and YOU&#039;RE not, and your children are onboard, do you really want to steer your boat right into the fray?

Here&#039;s something to consider - any survivors in this world are going to have to become very comfortable with watching innocent people die horrible deaths. There will be adorable orphans on makeshift rafts, begging to be let aboard. And sure, maybe we DO let some aboard. But we can only carry so many. I think a lot of people are not going to be psychologically prepared to abandon so many screaming, crying people to horrible death. And maybe one of the side effects of conditioning yourself to that life is that you get really good at stabbing people in the back. You just stop caring about morality. I&#039;m not sure we can count on a general spirit of fraternity to make sure all the boats stick together as a fleet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marinus &#8211; Ah, interesting! A network of boats! I&#8217;m assuming you suggest they stick together, in general. Pool resources, watch each other&#8217;s backs. When things got bad, however, wouldn&#8217;t there be a tremendous urge to screw the other boat? I mean, if THEY&#8217;RE getting attacked by pirates, and YOU&#8217;RE not, and your children are onboard, do you really want to steer your boat right into the fray?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s something to consider &#8211; any survivors in this world are going to have to become very comfortable with watching innocent people die horrible deaths. There will be adorable orphans on makeshift rafts, begging to be let aboard. And sure, maybe we DO let some aboard. But we can only carry so many. I think a lot of people are not going to be psychologically prepared to abandon so many screaming, crying people to horrible death. And maybe one of the side effects of conditioning yourself to that life is that you get really good at stabbing people in the back. You just stop caring about morality. I&#8217;m not sure we can count on a general spirit of fraternity to make sure all the boats stick together as a fleet.</p>
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		<title>By: Marinus</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/01/14/zombie-cruise-ship/#comment-14503</link>
		<dc:creator>Marinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to add the suggestion that who-ever organizes this insurance plan figure out at what number of policy subscribers/payers a second, third, fourth, (and so on) boat can be prepared. Because the more people and boats you have the better your tactical advantage against pirates and the Hoard. Not to mention that the larger the society the more stable it will be if some form of democracy or republic is established.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to add the suggestion that who-ever organizes this insurance plan figure out at what number of policy subscribers/payers a second, third, fourth, (and so on) boat can be prepared. Because the more people and boats you have the better your tactical advantage against pirates and the Hoard. Not to mention that the larger the society the more stable it will be if some form of democracy or republic is established.</p>
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		<title>By: Ret</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/01/14/zombie-cruise-ship/#comment-14498</link>
		<dc:creator>Ret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WWZ is a great read, and i&#039;m glad that someone has put this much thought into this as i have.  the Ocean is a perfect escape route, assuming that floating Zombies dont kill off all the sea life, then the idea of doing a lot of fishing is kind of (pardon the pun) dead in the water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WWZ is a great read, and i&#8217;m glad that someone has put this much thought into this as i have.  the Ocean is a perfect escape route, assuming that floating Zombies dont kill off all the sea life, then the idea of doing a lot of fishing is kind of (pardon the pun) dead in the water.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Belinkie</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/01/14/zombie-cruise-ship/#comment-14495</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Belinkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ryan - Dude, I ADORE World War Z. I not only read it once by myself, my girlfriend and I literally took turns reading chapters to each other. It was probably the most romantic thing I&#039;ve ever done. And I actually consulted the Zombie Survival Guide while writing this. Brooks is very down on boats, basically because it&#039;s so difficult to survive indefinitely on the open seas. He tells some great yarns about people starving in massive numbers, or boats being overun by zombies and then drifting into other boats. But I think my plan could overcome his objections. I&#039;m not suggesting a bunch of people pile into an old freighter and cast off. That would be crazy. I&#039;m suggesting we spend years and tens of millions of dollars creating something that is equipped for the task at hand. Without that preparation, Brooks is right: the sea is a harsh mistress indeed.

Incidentally, I hear the World War Z movie is still slowly chugging forward. Fingers crossed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ryan &#8211; Dude, I ADORE World War Z. I not only read it once by myself, my girlfriend and I literally took turns reading chapters to each other. It was probably the most romantic thing I&#8217;ve ever done. And I actually consulted the Zombie Survival Guide while writing this. Brooks is very down on boats, basically because it&#8217;s so difficult to survive indefinitely on the open seas. He tells some great yarns about people starving in massive numbers, or boats being overun by zombies and then drifting into other boats. But I think my plan could overcome his objections. I&#8217;m not suggesting a bunch of people pile into an old freighter and cast off. That would be crazy. I&#8217;m suggesting we spend years and tens of millions of dollars creating something that is equipped for the task at hand. Without that preparation, Brooks is right: the sea is a harsh mistress indeed.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I hear the World War Z movie is still slowly chugging forward. Fingers crossed!</p>
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