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	<title>Comments on: Total Recall: Dream or Not A Dream? Let&#8217;s Settle This Once And For All</title>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/11/25/total-recall-dream-debate-vote/#comment-13917</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be honest, there&#039;s no use deducing Total Recall in hopes of finding some backbone coherency connecting it all into a logical, understandable plotline. 

The scene where the man from Rekall comes into the apartment and offers Quaid a red-pill offers no insight to the question at hand. Why shouldn&#039;t he be pre-programmed into the story? Furthermore, Quaid sees the man sweating (which, in theory, a digital fabrication would have no reason to do), so there&#039;s enough evidence for either conclusion. 

Isn&#039;t the whole idea of Rekall to make an experience that Quaid doesn&#039;t know is false? Wouldn&#039;t the best way to do that be to thrust him into a situation where he has reason to question whether or not the recall worked? If the company raised to the expectations it proclaims for itself, the only way to give a one-hundred percent satisfactory recall experience is to make the client actually believe, in his core, the fabrication is, in fact, real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be honest, there&#8217;s no use deducing Total Recall in hopes of finding some backbone coherency connecting it all into a logical, understandable plotline. </p>
<p>The scene where the man from Rekall comes into the apartment and offers Quaid a red-pill offers no insight to the question at hand. Why shouldn&#8217;t he be pre-programmed into the story? Furthermore, Quaid sees the man sweating (which, in theory, a digital fabrication would have no reason to do), so there&#8217;s enough evidence for either conclusion. </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the whole idea of Rekall to make an experience that Quaid doesn&#8217;t know is false? Wouldn&#8217;t the best way to do that be to thrust him into a situation where he has reason to question whether or not the recall worked? If the company raised to the expectations it proclaims for itself, the only way to give a one-hundred percent satisfactory recall experience is to make the client actually believe, in his core, the fabrication is, in fact, real.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Prince</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/11/25/total-recall-dream-debate-vote/#comment-13788</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Prince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve taken the film to be entirely a dream sequence after he first falls asleep in the chair at Rekall. His awakening and flipping out is all part of the memory &quot;experience&quot; he paid for as a secret agent. The details of the description of the secret agent package are too coincidental. 

Therefore, I take it that the head of Rekall really is inserted to help guide Quaid out of his mental delusion. Hence at the end, when the screen turns to white right after the big romantic kiss, that&#039;s Quaid&#039;s brain fading away while he is being lobotomized. And that&#039;s the kind of ending I expect from Verhoeven. 

Just my two cents, hope it helps. Love the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve taken the film to be entirely a dream sequence after he first falls asleep in the chair at Rekall. His awakening and flipping out is all part of the memory &#8220;experience&#8221; he paid for as a secret agent. The details of the description of the secret agent package are too coincidental. </p>
<p>Therefore, I take it that the head of Rekall really is inserted to help guide Quaid out of his mental delusion. Hence at the end, when the screen turns to white right after the big romantic kiss, that&#8217;s Quaid&#8217;s brain fading away while he is being lobotomized. And that&#8217;s the kind of ending I expect from Verhoeven. </p>
<p>Just my two cents, hope it helps. Love the site.</p>
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		<title>By: GMan</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/11/25/total-recall-dream-debate-vote/#comment-13610</link>
		<dc:creator>GMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been a while since I&#039;ve seen the film, but - in support of the &quot;ass to Mars&quot; side of the argument - isn&#039;t it explained to Quaid that that everything in his mundane life (i.e. the first bit of the film) was in fact the dream, and that the action-packed, &quot;see you at the party&quot; stuff was the reality? The visit to Rekall is his wake up call.

This way, references to future occurrences, such as his taste in women, type of desired vacation, etc. are merely him dreaming about things in his real life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve seen the film, but &#8211; in support of the &#8220;ass to Mars&#8221; side of the argument &#8211; isn&#8217;t it explained to Quaid that that everything in his mundane life (i.e. the first bit of the film) was in fact the dream, and that the action-packed, &#8220;see you at the party&#8221; stuff was the reality? The visit to Rekall is his wake up call.</p>
<p>This way, references to future occurrences, such as his taste in women, type of desired vacation, etc. are merely him dreaming about things in his real life.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Levin</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/11/25/total-recall-dream-debate-vote/#comment-13535</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one thing I always got confused with about Total Recall was if Quaid was Hauser, then how did he know Melina? And why did Melina know Hauser as Quaid. Thats one big fucking plot hole in my book, unless someone can explain that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing I always got confused with about Total Recall was if Quaid was Hauser, then how did he know Melina? And why did Melina know Hauser as Quaid. Thats one big fucking plot hole in my book, unless someone can explain that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mads Ejstrup</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/11/25/total-recall-dream-debate-vote/#comment-13503</link>
		<dc:creator>Mads Ejstrup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But how, to those who think he got to Mars, do you explain that the scenes were he chooces what kind of Rekall-Holiday he want&#039;s, the pics out all the elements that later come true? He&#039;s wants to be a secret agent and he even pics his dream woman to be part of his dream and she looks exactly like Rachel Ticotin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But how, to those who think he got to Mars, do you explain that the scenes were he chooces what kind of Rekall-Holiday he want&#8217;s, the pics out all the elements that later come true? He&#8217;s wants to be a secret agent and he even pics his dream woman to be part of his dream and she looks exactly like Rachel Ticotin.</p>
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		<title>By: Rooker</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/11/25/total-recall-dream-debate-vote/#comment-13493</link>
		<dc:creator>Rooker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The book does a better job of giving a plausible explanation for the instant atmosphere thing. It was still rubbish scientifically but it was fine for fantasy.

The book has a couple of interesting twists not in the movie, at least if you like sci-fi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The book does a better job of giving a plausible explanation for the instant atmosphere thing. It was still rubbish scientifically but it was fine for fantasy.</p>
<p>The book has a couple of interesting twists not in the movie, at least if you like sci-fi.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Belinkie</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/11/25/total-recall-dream-debate-vote/#comment-13481</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Belinkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And let me ask another question. IF it&#039;s all a dream, what do we make of the mysterious man who comes to Quaid&#039;s room on Mars, and tells him it&#039;s all a dream. He explains that the program has gone wrong, and if Quaid doesn&#039;t take the pill as a symbolic gesture of wanting to wake up, he&#039;ll stay in the dream indefinitely. Is this just a pre-scripted twist to the spy story? Or is the guy being totally honest - he really WAS sent by Rekall to try and help Quaid out of the fantasy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And let me ask another question. IF it&#8217;s all a dream, what do we make of the mysterious man who comes to Quaid&#8217;s room on Mars, and tells him it&#8217;s all a dream. He explains that the program has gone wrong, and if Quaid doesn&#8217;t take the pill as a symbolic gesture of wanting to wake up, he&#8217;ll stay in the dream indefinitely. Is this just a pre-scripted twist to the spy story? Or is the guy being totally honest &#8211; he really WAS sent by Rekall to try and help Quaid out of the fantasy?</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/11/25/total-recall-dream-debate-vote/#comment-13480</link>
		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gerant: Thanks, glad you&#039;re enjoying the site, and thanks for contributing to this discussion!

As for the exposition in question here (when Quaid flips out and the employees give him emergency sedation), I find it hard to believe that all of that was intended to be part of Quaid&#039;s adventure. According to the dream interpretation, there are things that Rekall intended to happen and things that Rekall did not intend to happen. Quaid flipping out is clearly part of the latter.

In other words, I think this exposition sequence of events is &quot;real.&quot; Something actually goes wrong, and the Rekall employees actually sedate him and put him in a cab.

From there, one of two things happen:

&quot;All a Dream&quot; option: Quaid doesn&#039;t wake up in the cab. He keeps dreaming and experiences his adventure on Earth, then Mars. Meanwhile, in reality, he&#039;s found in the cab unconscious and presumably taken back to Rekall for further &quot;treatment.&quot;

&quot;All Reality&quot; option: Quaid wakes up in the cab and the events of the movie actually occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gerant: Thanks, glad you&#8217;re enjoying the site, and thanks for contributing to this discussion!</p>
<p>As for the exposition in question here (when Quaid flips out and the employees give him emergency sedation), I find it hard to believe that all of that was intended to be part of Quaid&#8217;s adventure. According to the dream interpretation, there are things that Rekall intended to happen and things that Rekall did not intend to happen. Quaid flipping out is clearly part of the latter.</p>
<p>In other words, I think this exposition sequence of events is &#8220;real.&#8221; Something actually goes wrong, and the Rekall employees actually sedate him and put him in a cab.</p>
<p>From there, one of two things happen:</p>
<p>&#8220;All a Dream&#8221; option: Quaid doesn&#8217;t wake up in the cab. He keeps dreaming and experiences his adventure on Earth, then Mars. Meanwhile, in reality, he&#8217;s found in the cab unconscious and presumably taken back to Rekall for further &#8220;treatment.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;All Reality&#8221; option: Quaid wakes up in the cab and the events of the movie actually occur.</p>
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		<title>By: gerant</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/11/25/total-recall-dream-debate-vote/#comment-13465</link>
		<dc:creator>gerant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lee:

The female Rekaller in charge of Quaid&#039;s trip flicks her assistant the Rekall program which I assume holds all the fantasies Quaid would like to experience. He catches it and comments, &quot;That&#039;s a new one, blue sky on Mars.&quot; 

After a little chit chat concerning Quaid&#039;s relationship with his wife the assistant says &quot;All systems are go.&quot;

The Rekaller now states and questions, &quot;Then we&#039;re set. Ready for dream land?&quot;

I believe that it is here that you will find the definitive pivot point. The moment we see Quaid receive his sedative is the beginning of his Rekall. Quaid groans and our adventure begins. 

As for all the exposition between here and the taxi, I&#039;m prone to think that this exists for the same reason Richter exists outside of Quaids own personal experience. I assume that Rekall works much like an on-line RPG. The implanted memory is more than just Quaid&#039;s personal experience, it&#039;s a universe of characters and scenarios that as a whole complete Quaid&#039;s Rekall.

And so to answer your question straight... Yes, I believe it&#039;s all a dream after that specific pivot point.

On a different note:
I&#039;ve been frequenting Overthinkingit.com for most of this year and have thoroughly enjoyed almost every article. Even subjects I have no interest in have become far more intriguing thanks to this site. Thanks for the good times! It&#039;s been fun to weigh in on something I care passionately about so I am sure that you will be hearing more from me over the following Verhoeverthinking It week!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lee:</p>
<p>The female Rekaller in charge of Quaid&#8217;s trip flicks her assistant the Rekall program which I assume holds all the fantasies Quaid would like to experience. He catches it and comments, &#8220;That&#8217;s a new one, blue sky on Mars.&#8221; </p>
<p>After a little chit chat concerning Quaid&#8217;s relationship with his wife the assistant says &#8220;All systems are go.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Rekaller now states and questions, &#8220;Then we&#8217;re set. Ready for dream land?&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe that it is here that you will find the definitive pivot point. The moment we see Quaid receive his sedative is the beginning of his Rekall. Quaid groans and our adventure begins. </p>
<p>As for all the exposition between here and the taxi, I&#8217;m prone to think that this exists for the same reason Richter exists outside of Quaids own personal experience. I assume that Rekall works much like an on-line RPG. The implanted memory is more than just Quaid&#8217;s personal experience, it&#8217;s a universe of characters and scenarios that as a whole complete Quaid&#8217;s Rekall.</p>
<p>And so to answer your question straight&#8230; Yes, I believe it&#8217;s all a dream after that specific pivot point.</p>
<p>On a different note:<br />
I&#8217;ve been frequenting Overthinkingit.com for most of this year and have thoroughly enjoyed almost every article. Even subjects I have no interest in have become far more intriguing thanks to this site. Thanks for the good times! It&#8217;s been fun to weigh in on something I care passionately about so I am sure that you will be hearing more from me over the following Verhoeverthinking It week!</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/11/25/total-recall-dream-debate-vote/#comment-13460</link>
		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gerant: the Rekall scene is indeed pivotal. We see the employees sedate Quaid, then put him away in a taxi. Then Quaid comes to in the taxi, and he&#039;s off on his adventure. 

In the &quot;dream&quot; interpretation, how are we supposed to interpret the time between his sedation and him waking up in the taxi? Is that &quot;part of his dream,&quot; or did that actually happen? Does his &quot;dream&quot; essentially start when he wakes up in the cab?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gerant: the Rekall scene is indeed pivotal. We see the employees sedate Quaid, then put him away in a taxi. Then Quaid comes to in the taxi, and he&#8217;s off on his adventure. </p>
<p>In the &#8220;dream&#8221; interpretation, how are we supposed to interpret the time between his sedation and him waking up in the taxi? Is that &#8220;part of his dream,&#8221; or did that actually happen? Does his &#8220;dream&#8221; essentially start when he wakes up in the cab?</p>
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