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		<title>By: Gab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaaah, &quot;Robin Hood: Prince of Theives.&quot;  Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham is why I say I&#039;ll stab/cut out someone&#039;s eyes with a spoon (jokingly, of course).  Best scene evar?  &quot;Because it&#039;s dull, you twit, it&#039;ll hurt more.&quot;  Over-acted, but so fantastic.  And random trivia about the song: Kamen hated it and didn&#039;t want to incorporate it into the score very much because he thought the piano sounded too modern.  No problems with the guitar, bass, or drums, though.  (Thanks, &quot;Pop Up Video.&quot;)

Greg: I like &quot;Boondock Saints&quot; as an example of that particular action movie, i.e. a gun-fight one.  It&#039;s lack of any sort of car chase sequence sets it apart from, say, the third &quot;Die Hard,&quot; a potential benchmark for the genre of action in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaaah, &#8220;Robin Hood: Prince of Theives.&#8221;  Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham is why I say I&#8217;ll stab/cut out someone&#8217;s eyes with a spoon (jokingly, of course).  Best scene evar?  &#8220;Because it&#8217;s dull, you twit, it&#8217;ll hurt more.&#8221;  Over-acted, but so fantastic.  And random trivia about the song: Kamen hated it and didn&#8217;t want to incorporate it into the score very much because he thought the piano sounded too modern.  No problems with the guitar, bass, or drums, though.  (Thanks, &#8220;Pop Up Video.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Greg: I like &#8220;Boondock Saints&#8221; as an example of that particular action movie, i.e. a gun-fight one.  It&#8217;s lack of any sort of car chase sequence sets it apart from, say, the third &#8220;Die Hard,&#8221; a potential benchmark for the genre of action in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Boondock Saints is my benchmark. The casting was excellent, the production values so-so, the story semi-forgettable, and the action more than satisfying. 
To me, it screams benchmark because it was good enough to warrant a sequel, but not popular enough that it is sill considered a cult hit.

Also, anything with Alan Rickman is awesome by default. The rest of the movie may suck, but Snape/Grueber/Marvin is great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Boondock Saints is my benchmark. The casting was excellent, the production values so-so, the story semi-forgettable, and the action more than satisfying.<br />
To me, it screams benchmark because it was good enough to warrant a sequel, but not popular enough that it is sill considered a cult hit.</p>
<p>Also, anything with Alan Rickman is awesome by default. The rest of the movie may suck, but Snape/Grueber/Marvin is great.</p>
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		<title>By: mlawski</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlawski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@stokes: And anything by Brian Blessed.  If anyone doesn&#039;t know who he is, look him up and be delighted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@stokes: And anything by Brian Blessed.  If anyone doesn&#8217;t know who he is, look him up and be delighted.</p>
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		<title>By: stokes</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/10/23/benchmark-movies/#comment-12971</link>
		<dc:creator>stokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno... I think ham-fisted but awesome is a great way to describe that performance.  Ham-fisted doesn&#039;t really mean bungled, it means something like clumsy, too forceful, bereft of subtlety.  Like, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5k8ip_ytmnd-carmina-burana-alternate-lyri_fun&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carmina Burana&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; is really, REALLY ham-fisted. That doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not also good.  

So while a ham-fisted surgeon is always bad, a ham-fisted boxer can sometimes do pretty well, and a ham-fisted performance can be brilliant.  My nominations for greatest of all time would be Rickman in Robin Hood, Charlton Heston in The Ten Commandments, and Joan Crawford in Straight Jacket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno&#8230; I think ham-fisted but awesome is a great way to describe that performance.  Ham-fisted doesn&#8217;t really mean bungled, it means something like clumsy, too forceful, bereft of subtlety.  Like, <em><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5k8ip_ytmnd-carmina-burana-alternate-lyri_fun" rel="nofollow">Carmina Burana</a></em> is really, REALLY ham-fisted. That doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not also good.  </p>
<p>So while a ham-fisted surgeon is always bad, a ham-fisted boxer can sometimes do pretty well, and a ham-fisted performance can be brilliant.  My nominations for greatest of all time would be Rickman in Robin Hood, Charlton Heston in The Ten Commandments, and Joan Crawford in Straight Jacket.</p>
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		<title>By: mcneil</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/10/23/benchmark-movies/#comment-12969</link>
		<dc:creator>mcneil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good call, Jon.  My reading kung fu is weak. With apologies to Film Freak Central...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call, Jon.  My reading kung fu is weak. With apologies to Film Freak Central&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/10/23/benchmark-movies/#comment-12968</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to nitpick an otherwise enlightening article, but your post-script at the end of page 1 loses a lot of its steam when one recalls that &quot;George H.W.&quot; actually refers to Dubya&#039;s dad — meaning that the 1991 movie really only only (supposedly) predicted the results of the &lt;i&gt;1992&lt;/i&gt; election. (And accurately, at that.)

Keep up the good work! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to nitpick an otherwise enlightening article, but your post-script at the end of page 1 loses a lot of its steam when one recalls that &#8220;George H.W.&#8221; actually refers to Dubya&#8217;s dad — meaning that the 1991 movie really only only (supposedly) predicted the results of the <i>1992</i> election. (And accurately, at that.)</p>
<p>Keep up the good work! :)</p>
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		<title>By: RiderIon</title>
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		<dc:creator>RiderIon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a few benchmark movies based on genre. All of them are closer to the bad end of the spectrum as opposed to being dead center but I still enjoy them and use them as a benchmark.

Action:  The Scorpion King starring Dwayne &quot;The Rock&quot; Johnson. Remember when The Rock actual made acceptable movies? I certainly do. While it does have a pretty cliched plot and some questionable dialogue, the action is well done. It also has Michael Clarke Duncan in the role he was meant to play: large, angry pesudo-antagonist to the hero.

Superhero: Ghost Rider, starring Nicholas Cage. It&#039;s faithful enough to the source material to keep my inner Comic Book Guy in check. Cage&#039;s acting switches between being just a bit over-the-top and being too hammy for it&#039;s own good. Special effects aren&#039;t the greatest in the world but they get the job done. It also has a great driving sequence with Ghost Riders in the Sky.

Thriller: Trauma. The name of the lead escapes me but I&#039;ll admit I picked this film up on a whim. It has a decent mystery with a slow burn. The climax has several unexpected reveals within a few minutes  of another. They aren&#039;t ultimately satisfying but they do allow the film to end on a disturbing note. It doesn&#039;t hold up under intense scurtiny but given the limited information the viewer is given, it stands up well on its own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few benchmark movies based on genre. All of them are closer to the bad end of the spectrum as opposed to being dead center but I still enjoy them and use them as a benchmark.</p>
<p>Action:  The Scorpion King starring Dwayne &#8220;The Rock&#8221; Johnson. Remember when The Rock actual made acceptable movies? I certainly do. While it does have a pretty cliched plot and some questionable dialogue, the action is well done. It also has Michael Clarke Duncan in the role he was meant to play: large, angry pesudo-antagonist to the hero.</p>
<p>Superhero: Ghost Rider, starring Nicholas Cage. It&#8217;s faithful enough to the source material to keep my inner Comic Book Guy in check. Cage&#8217;s acting switches between being just a bit over-the-top and being too hammy for it&#8217;s own good. Special effects aren&#8217;t the greatest in the world but they get the job done. It also has a great driving sequence with Ghost Riders in the Sky.</p>
<p>Thriller: Trauma. The name of the lead escapes me but I&#8217;ll admit I picked this film up on a whim. It has a decent mystery with a slow burn. The climax has several unexpected reveals within a few minutes  of another. They aren&#8217;t ultimately satisfying but they do allow the film to end on a disturbing note. It doesn&#8217;t hold up under intense scurtiny but given the limited information the viewer is given, it stands up well on its own.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No time to over-think, except that you call Alan Rickman&#039;s performance in Robin Hood &quot;ham-fisted.&quot; That means a very bungled performance, but you then say it&#039;s very good. Do you mean his hammed-up performance, in which he would be over-acting? Or ... something else? /confused</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No time to over-think, except that you call Alan Rickman&#8217;s performance in Robin Hood &#8220;ham-fisted.&#8221; That means a very bungled performance, but you then say it&#8217;s very good. Do you mean his hammed-up performance, in which he would be over-acting? Or &#8230; something else? /confused</p>
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