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		<title>By: manscaper</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/07/13/overthinking-lost-episodes-2-9-2-16/#comment-11486</link>
		<dc:creator>manscaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>regarding your comments on race in Lost.  If you&#039;re watching on DVD be sure to watch the special features on season 1, specifically about casting.  The show went out of their way to be open about race, even for specific characters.  For instance the actress who plays Sun originally auditioned for Kate, but then they created the role of Sun for her to capitolize on her huge success in Korean films.  Also Hurley originally auditioned for Sawyer...ect, most of the characters didn&#039;t have an assigned race until the role was cast then the writers worked with the actor in mind (obviously, in case of somebody like Sayid there are exceptions)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regarding your comments on race in Lost.  If you&#8217;re watching on DVD be sure to watch the special features on season 1, specifically about casting.  The show went out of their way to be open about race, even for specific characters.  For instance the actress who plays Sun originally auditioned for Kate, but then they created the role of Sun for her to capitolize on her huge success in Korean films.  Also Hurley originally auditioned for Sawyer&#8230;ect, most of the characters didn&#8217;t have an assigned race until the role was cast then the writers worked with the actor in mind (obviously, in case of somebody like Sayid there are exceptions)</p>
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		<title>By: James T.</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/07/13/overthinking-lost-episodes-2-9-2-16/#comment-11206</link>
		<dc:creator>James T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting bit of trivia: the bit where Kate points out that John Locke is called John Locke was filmed but cut; probably they thought the reference was too painfully obvious already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting bit of trivia: the bit where Kate points out that John Locke is called John Locke was filmed but cut; probably they thought the reference was too painfully obvious already.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayemel</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/07/13/overthinking-lost-episodes-2-9-2-16/#comment-10794</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayemel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comments for this week will be short and sweet and refer back to a couple previous entries.

Last post, you mentioned people starting to question Jack&#039;s power position.  I&#039;m extremely surprised you didn&#039;t mention Sawyer&#039;s speech in &quot;The Long Con.&quot;

If you go back to my comment on your first post, I point out that, in contrast to the two you suggest, there are three places the characters can exist: the caves (with Jack), the jungle (with Locke), and the beach (with ??).  Could the beach be with Sawyer?  Do we have a third leader (and philosophical alternative) emerging?  Is he intended to be more &quot;American&quot; than other characters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comments for this week will be short and sweet and refer back to a couple previous entries.</p>
<p>Last post, you mentioned people starting to question Jack&#8217;s power position.  I&#8217;m extremely surprised you didn&#8217;t mention Sawyer&#8217;s speech in &#8220;The Long Con.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you go back to my comment on your first post, I point out that, in contrast to the two you suggest, there are three places the characters can exist: the caves (with Jack), the jungle (with Locke), and the beach (with ??).  Could the beach be with Sawyer?  Do we have a third leader (and philosophical alternative) emerging?  Is he intended to be more &#8220;American&#8221; than other characters?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/07/13/overthinking-lost-episodes-2-9-2-16/#comment-10746</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, John.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/07/13/overthinking-lost-episodes-2-9-2-16/#comment-10745</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think &quot;Henry Gale&#039;s&quot; scene towards the end of 2.16 is one of the key scenes all season 2.  The one where he asks about where the food and the hatch comes from, and expresses surprise that the Losties aren&#039;t more curious about the place they find themselves in.  In essence, he points out that they have been asking the wrong questions.

And as interesting as the parallels to &quot;Lord of the Flies&quot; may be, it might be worth overthinking the fact that this is a place where the crippled walk.  Where some survive a plane crash with a few scrapes where most do not survive while strapped into their seats.  Where a column of black smoke wanders the jungle killing some, and leaving others.  A place in the South Pacific that freaking big that is somehow unnoticed by the outside world.  The biggest question on the island is not &quot;Jack vs Locke vs Sawyer,&quot; although most of the time so far Jack, Locke and Sawyer might disagree.

I like to make the parallel between this scene and the one in Season One where Michael and Jin are about to fight, and Locke bursts in with his &quot;WE&#039;RE NOT THE ONLY ONES HERE (FOOLS!)&quot; speech.  Our Losties like to be distracted with their own dramas whenever bigger issues rear their heads.  In fact, the Losties make a habit of it.

Con men, like magicians and some television writers, like to make a lot of noise to make sure you notice one of their hands.  The real magic is taking place in the other hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;Henry Gale&#8217;s&#8221; scene towards the end of 2.16 is one of the key scenes all season 2.  The one where he asks about where the food and the hatch comes from, and expresses surprise that the Losties aren&#8217;t more curious about the place they find themselves in.  In essence, he points out that they have been asking the wrong questions.</p>
<p>And as interesting as the parallels to &#8220;Lord of the Flies&#8221; may be, it might be worth overthinking the fact that this is a place where the crippled walk.  Where some survive a plane crash with a few scrapes where most do not survive while strapped into their seats.  Where a column of black smoke wanders the jungle killing some, and leaving others.  A place in the South Pacific that freaking big that is somehow unnoticed by the outside world.  The biggest question on the island is not &#8220;Jack vs Locke vs Sawyer,&#8221; although most of the time so far Jack, Locke and Sawyer might disagree.</p>
<p>I like to make the parallel between this scene and the one in Season One where Michael and Jin are about to fight, and Locke bursts in with his &#8220;WE&#8217;RE NOT THE ONLY ONES HERE (FOOLS!)&#8221; speech.  Our Losties like to be distracted with their own dramas whenever bigger issues rear their heads.  In fact, the Losties make a habit of it.</p>
<p>Con men, like magicians and some television writers, like to make a lot of noise to make sure you notice one of their hands.  The real magic is taking place in the other hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom P</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/07/13/overthinking-lost-episodes-2-9-2-16/#comment-10744</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The show kind of loses its way for a bit here as they figure out this storyline is not open-ended and they need to set an end point to avoid episodes where nothing happens (and there are quite a few of them between now and the middle of S3).  Until they break out of that, just enjoy the awesomeness of Michael Emerson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The show kind of loses its way for a bit here as they figure out this storyline is not open-ended and they need to set an end point to avoid episodes where nothing happens (and there are quite a few of them between now and the middle of S3).  Until they break out of that, just enjoy the awesomeness of Michael Emerson.</p>
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		<title>By: mlawski</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlawski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gab: No, the spoiler hasn&#039;t shown up, though the events happening now in the episodes I&#039;ve been watching suggest it might show up fairly soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gab: No, the spoiler hasn&#8217;t shown up, though the events happening now in the episodes I&#8217;ve been watching suggest it might show up fairly soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Gab</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/07/13/overthinking-lost-episodes-2-9-2-16/#comment-10703</link>
		<dc:creator>Gab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, I missed the third page...  So one more thing about the race issue: The initiation videos are hosted by an Asian man.  Does that count for anything?

And another point: I can&#039;t remember which man I preferred at this particular stage in the series; but now, after the most recent season finale, I&#039;m tied between Sawyer and Desmond.  

So the big spoiler you were spoiled for hasn&#039;t shown up yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, I missed the third page&#8230;  So one more thing about the race issue: The initiation videos are hosted by an Asian man.  Does that count for anything?</p>
<p>And another point: I can&#8217;t remember which man I preferred at this particular stage in the series; but now, after the most recent season finale, I&#8217;m tied between Sawyer and Desmond.  </p>
<p>So the big spoiler you were spoiled for hasn&#8217;t shown up yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you used my suggested topic. I like your take on it. But keep in mind there may be other ideas of what fate or destiny itself is, not related to religion. Maybe fate is just knowing what will happen, not actually creating it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you used my suggested topic. I like your take on it. But keep in mind there may be other ideas of what fate or destiny itself is, not related to religion. Maybe fate is just knowing what will happen, not actually creating it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gab</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/07/13/overthinking-lost-episodes-2-9-2-16/#comment-10693</link>
		<dc:creator>Gab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Eko.

Even if his character from &quot;Oz&quot; could beat him up, the way Eko stared down Smokey was just so mind-bogglingly badass that my mental diaper needed a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Eko.</p>
<p>Even if his character from &#8220;Oz&#8221; could beat him up, the way Eko stared down Smokey was just so mind-bogglingly badass that my mental diaper needed a change.</p>
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