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	<title>Comments on: Episode 44: Where&#8217;s The Beef?</title>
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		<title>By: drederick</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/05/04/episode-44-wheres-the-beef/#comment-9467</link>
		<dc:creator>drederick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lil Wayne is not that great in terms of the content of his lyrics, but I think his &quot;flow&quot; is perhaps the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lil Wayne is not that great in terms of the content of his lyrics, but I think his &#8220;flow&#8221; is perhaps the best.</p>
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		<title>By: John Perich</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/05/04/episode-44-wheres-the-beef/#comment-9155</link>
		<dc:creator>John Perich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheely,

I&#039;ve listened to &quot;Dr. Carter,&quot; &quot;Georgia Bush&quot; and &quot;Shooter.&quot;  While they&#039;re all decent, I don&#039;t see what merits the Greatest Rapper Alive title in any of them.

I can think of better &quot;here&#039;s what&#039;s wrong with MCs today&quot; tracks than &quot;Dr. Carter&quot; - for instance, &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/YGM/7316520&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;YGM&lt;/a&gt;off of Atmosphere&#039;s mix tape &quot;Strictly Leakage.&quot;

I can think of better call-outs of politicians than &quot;Georgia Bush&quot; - for instance, Immortal Technique&#039;s &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igt-jW4e8ts&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Point of No Return&lt;/a&gt;.

Lil&#039; Wayne isn&#039;t bad - I just don&#039;t understand what makes him the &quot;Best Rapper Alive.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheely,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve listened to &#8220;Dr. Carter,&#8221; &#8220;Georgia Bush&#8221; and &#8220;Shooter.&#8221;  While they&#8217;re all decent, I don&#8217;t see what merits the Greatest Rapper Alive title in any of them.</p>
<p>I can think of better &#8220;here&#8217;s what&#8217;s wrong with MCs today&#8221; tracks than &#8220;Dr. Carter&#8221; &#8211; for instance, <a HREF="http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/YGM/7316520" rel="nofollow">YGM</a>off of Atmosphere&#8217;s mix tape &#8220;Strictly Leakage.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can think of better call-outs of politicians than &#8220;Georgia Bush&#8221; &#8211; for instance, Immortal Technique&#8217;s <a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igt-jW4e8ts" rel="nofollow">Point of No Return</a>.</p>
<p>Lil&#8217; Wayne isn&#8217;t bad &#8211; I just don&#8217;t understand what makes him the &#8220;Best Rapper Alive.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sheely</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/05/04/episode-44-wheres-the-beef/#comment-8689</link>
		<dc:creator>sheely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I tried to post this comment yesterday morning, and for some reason it didn&#039;t work (perhaps it was the links), so here is my second try at providing a few Lil&#039; Wayne recommendations.  

I think the song that best showcases Lil&#039; Wayne&#039;s skills as a rapper is &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinysong.com/2N1u&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dr. Carter&lt;/a&gt;, one of the mid-album cuts off of Tha Carter III.  This song is cool because he takes a beat that you would expect to hear MF Doom rapping over and totally owns it.  

I think another song that does a good job of showcasing Wayne&#039;s skill as a lyricist and rapper is 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinysong.com/1a4Q&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Georgia Bush&lt;/a&gt;, off of the Dedication 2 Mixtape.  A lot of his best mixtape songs work because he not only jacks the the beat from a current single (in this case &quot;Georgia&quot; by Field Mob and Ludacris) but he also mimics the flow of the original rapper, while at the same time increasing the complexity of the wordplay substantially.  Not only does he do this particularly well on this song, but he also subjects the causes and effects of the Bush administration&#039;s (non)response to Hurricane Katrina to a level of scrutiny it definitely deserves.


If these are some of the Lil&#039; Wayne songs that you&#039;ve already heard (and disliked), try some of these:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinysong.com/r04&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shooter&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinysong.com/3Qam&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dedication 2&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinysong.com/3Qc5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;We Takin&#039; Ova (Remix)&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Dough_Is_What_I_Got/8600451&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dough Is What I Got&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinysong.com/1afY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mr. Carter&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I tried to post this comment yesterday morning, and for some reason it didn&#8217;t work (perhaps it was the links), so here is my second try at providing a few Lil&#8217; Wayne recommendations.  </p>
<p>I think the song that best showcases Lil&#8217; Wayne&#8217;s skills as a rapper is <a href="http://tinysong.com/2N1u" rel="nofollow">Dr. Carter</a>, one of the mid-album cuts off of Tha Carter III.  This song is cool because he takes a beat that you would expect to hear MF Doom rapping over and totally owns it.  </p>
<p>I think another song that does a good job of showcasing Wayne&#8217;s skill as a lyricist and rapper is<br />
<a href="http://tinysong.com/1a4Q" rel="nofollow">Georgia Bush</a>, off of the Dedication 2 Mixtape.  A lot of his best mixtape songs work because he not only jacks the the beat from a current single (in this case &#8220;Georgia&#8221; by Field Mob and Ludacris) but he also mimics the flow of the original rapper, while at the same time increasing the complexity of the wordplay substantially.  Not only does he do this particularly well on this song, but he also subjects the causes and effects of the Bush administration&#8217;s (non)response to Hurricane Katrina to a level of scrutiny it definitely deserves.</p>
<p>If these are some of the Lil&#8217; Wayne songs that you&#8217;ve already heard (and disliked), try some of these:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinysong.com/r04" rel="nofollow">Shooter</a></p>
<p><a href="http://tinysong.com/3Qam" rel="nofollow">Dedication 2</a></p>
<p><a href="http://tinysong.com/3Qc5" rel="nofollow">We Takin&#8217; Ova (Remix)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Dough_Is_What_I_Got/8600451" rel="nofollow">Dough Is What I Got</a></p>
<p><a href="http://tinysong.com/1afY" rel="nofollow">Mr. Carter</a></p>
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		<title>By: sheely</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/05/04/episode-44-wheres-the-beef/#comment-8680</link>
		<dc:creator>sheely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UH OHHHHHHHHHH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UH OHHHHHHHHHH</p>
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		<title>By: Perich</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/05/04/episode-44-wheres-the-beef/#comment-8674</link>
		<dc:creator>Perich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 14:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I hate on Lil&#039; Wayne, I did like his Fenzel diss track:

yo, it&#039;s the lil&#039; weezy, it&#039;s the baller from the eighties
busting out the bolt-cutters to unlock all the Yalies
&#039;cause all my jackets are trippin&#039;, all my ho&#039;s is strippin&#039;
and when I see Pistol Pete he&#039;ll get a pistol-whippin&#039;
uh, I&#039;m not psycho, uh, I&#039;m emphatic
driving up to Boston with a semi-automatic
telling all the snitches that I&#039;m lookin&#039; for Fenzel
run him over on Mass Ave with my mad Benz-o
stay offa my stage or you-a get some rages
cracking open yo chest like Cosby&#039;s picture pages
got the diamonds with gloss, got the ladies in floss
smoke you like a island monster, son, you just got lost
I&#039;m producing three mixes for each one of your essays
you try to flee to Mexico and I&#039;m like como, ese?
cooking up the rock up in the skull of your brainpan
leave you lock up in the box as if your name was Rain Man.

WHAT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I hate on Lil&#8217; Wayne, I did like his Fenzel diss track:</p>
<p>yo, it&#8217;s the lil&#8217; weezy, it&#8217;s the baller from the eighties<br />
busting out the bolt-cutters to unlock all the Yalies<br />
&#8217;cause all my jackets are trippin&#8217;, all my ho&#8217;s is strippin&#8217;<br />
and when I see Pistol Pete he&#8217;ll get a pistol-whippin&#8217;<br />
uh, I&#8217;m not psycho, uh, I&#8217;m emphatic<br />
driving up to Boston with a semi-automatic<br />
telling all the snitches that I&#8217;m lookin&#8217; for Fenzel<br />
run him over on Mass Ave with my mad Benz-o<br />
stay offa my stage or you-a get some rages<br />
cracking open yo chest like Cosby&#8217;s picture pages<br />
got the diamonds with gloss, got the ladies in floss<br />
smoke you like a island monster, son, you just got lost<br />
I&#8217;m producing three mixes for each one of your essays<br />
you try to flee to Mexico and I&#8217;m like como, ese?<br />
cooking up the rock up in the skull of your brainpan<br />
leave you lock up in the box as if your name was Rain Man.</p>
<p>WHAT.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8217;cause I&#8217;m as ill as the convict who kills for phone time &#171; Periscope Depth</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/05/04/episode-44-wheres-the-beef/#comment-8668</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8217;cause I&#8217;m as ill as the convict who kills for phone time &#171; Periscope Depth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 12:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not already subscribing, you should check out this week&#8217;s Overthinking It podcast, in which four white guys and an Asian argue about rap music. We also sling terms like &#8220;racially normative&#8221; around and, at one point, call Mozart [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not already subscribing, you should check out this week&#8217;s Overthinking It podcast, in which four white guys and an Asian argue about rap music. We also sling terms like &#8220;racially normative&#8221; around and, at one point, call Mozart [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike from L.A.</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/05/04/episode-44-wheres-the-beef/#comment-8661</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike from L.A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 08:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was definitely one of the most entertaining OTI podcasts in recent memory.  For my money, the only thing better than pop culture scrutiny is racially-charged pop culture scrutiny.  Perhaps next week you can talk about Hollywood&#039;s depiction of terrorism?

And Fenzel, in the words of Egon Spangler, &quot;Your mother.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was definitely one of the most entertaining OTI podcasts in recent memory.  For my money, the only thing better than pop culture scrutiny is racially-charged pop culture scrutiny.  Perhaps next week you can talk about Hollywood&#8217;s depiction of terrorism?</p>
<p>And Fenzel, in the words of Egon Spangler, &#8220;Your mother.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/05/04/episode-44-wheres-the-beef/#comment-8658</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 07:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. @Fenzel, because you asked in the podcast:
u claim 2 b a playa but i f----d ur wife !!!!1!11!one
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. @Fenzel, because you asked in the podcast:<br />
u claim 2 b a playa but i f&#8212;-d ur wife !!!!1!11!one</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/05/04/episode-44-wheres-the-beef/#comment-8657</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, guys, didn&#039;t mean to sound so confrontational up there... =)
@Gab, you make excellent points about the distinction between composer and performer, and I agree entirely. Also thanks for raising the example of Bach, whose stuff can be played a million different ways.

@Perich, I don&#039;t know any of Wayne&#039;s stuff yet, mostly because I haven&#039;t had the chance to acquire his albums through, uh, through &quot;means.&quot; But I too would be interested in particular recommendations of the audience...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, guys, didn&#8217;t mean to sound so confrontational up there&#8230; =)<br />
@Gab, you make excellent points about the distinction between composer and performer, and I agree entirely. Also thanks for raising the example of Bach, whose stuff can be played a million different ways.</p>
<p>@Perich, I don&#8217;t know any of Wayne&#8217;s stuff yet, mostly because I haven&#8217;t had the chance to acquire his albums through, uh, through &#8220;means.&#8221; But I too would be interested in particular recommendations of the audience&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Wrather</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/05/04/episode-44-wheres-the-beef/#comment-8639</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Wrather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 21:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how this episode has occasioned a hasty set of disclaimers and clarifications. That, in my view, is the mark of good Internet media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how this episode has occasioned a hasty set of disclaimers and clarifications. That, in my view, is the mark of good Internet media.</p>
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