Comments on: Knowing is NOT half the battle http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/04/04/knowing-is-not-half-the-battle/ Overthinking It subjects the popular culture to a level of scrutiny it probably doesn't deserve. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:53:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: Tracy http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/04/04/knowing-is-not-half-the-battle/#comment-9886 Tracy Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:49:29 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=6415#comment-9886 So, I'll admit that for the first half or more of the movie I was somewhat into it. This is probably because I don't usually go to movies that are remotely scary and therefore I was really freaked out by the creepy people coming out of the woods. No seriously, I inadvertently held the hand of the guy sitting next to me I was so freaked out. I had to ask what his name was after the movie. Luckily he wasn't there with his girlfriend or anything, or I could have left that movie with a black eye. In addition to buying into the suspense, I really liked the point you made about the movie not chickening out. I'm always complaining about the perpetual happy endings in Hollywood. It's probably morbid, but whenever I watch a romantic comedy where it's impossible for them to be together or one of them gets deathly ill. I want the movie to end without the miracle marriage or the sick person to die, just to prove someone in Hollywood has the guts to do it. Anyway, I will give that to Knowing. They didn't shy away from their tragic ending. But ALIENS! That's just lame. Give me some psychotic tribe of magic men, give me a secret government organization, just not aliens. I felt like that was a cop out. The bunnies theme was interesting, and slightly disturbing. I'm assuming they were supposed to represent fecundity and the eventual re-population of the other planet. But it's weird to think of that when you're looking at a couple of 10-year-olds. And adding the Adam and Even connotations at the end was just a lame attempt at depth. That's all. I didn't really like the movie. But I did like the comparisons you made to Superman. That was funny. So I guess my watching the movie wasn't a complete waste. I was able to laugh at the Superman comparison because I saw it. So, I’ll admit that for the first half or more of the movie I was somewhat into it. This is probably because I don’t usually go to movies that are remotely scary and therefore I was really freaked out by the creepy people coming out of the woods. No seriously, I inadvertently held the hand of the guy sitting next to me I was so freaked out. I had to ask what his name was after the movie. Luckily he wasn’t there with his girlfriend or anything, or I could have left that movie with a black eye.

In addition to buying into the suspense, I really liked the point you made about the movie not chickening out. I’m always complaining about the perpetual happy endings in Hollywood. It’s probably morbid, but whenever I watch a romantic comedy where it’s impossible for them to be together or one of them gets deathly ill. I want the movie to end without the miracle marriage or the sick person to die, just to prove someone in Hollywood has the guts to do it. Anyway, I will give that to Knowing. They didn’t shy away from their tragic ending.

But ALIENS! That’s just lame. Give me some psychotic tribe of magic men, give me a secret government organization, just not aliens. I felt like that was a cop out.
The bunnies theme was interesting, and slightly disturbing. I’m assuming they were supposed to represent fecundity and the eventual re-population of the other planet. But it’s weird to think of that when you’re looking at a couple of 10-year-olds. And adding the Adam and Even connotations at the end was just a lame attempt at depth.

That’s all. I didn’t really like the movie. But I did like the comparisons you made to Superman. That was funny. So I guess my watching the movie wasn’t a complete waste. I was able to laugh at the Superman comparison because I saw it.

]]> By: Colin Richardson http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/04/04/knowing-is-not-half-the-battle/#comment-9787 Colin Richardson Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:16:55 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=6415#comment-9787 I don't know where to start with this film, it was to idiotic. Space pedophilles come up with a 50 year plan to steal all of earths children and just for a laugh, they tell a little girl when the earth will end just to mess her head up. Why could no adults go with their children at the end of the movie, what were the aliens doing lurking in the woods and whispering to the children and why could they only fit 2 children on each incredibly massive ship. Really really bad movie and these questions are all retorical, i don't wish to know the answers thanks. I don’t know where to start with this film, it was to idiotic. Space pedophilles come up with a 50 year plan to steal all of earths children and just for a laugh, they tell a little girl when the earth will end just to mess her head up. Why could no adults go with their children at the end of the movie, what were the aliens doing lurking in the woods and whispering to the children and why could they only fit 2 children on each incredibly massive ship. Really really bad movie and these questions are all retorical, i don’t wish to know the answers thanks.

]]> By: Stefano http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/04/04/knowing-is-not-half-the-battle/#comment-7789 Stefano Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:47:24 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=6415#comment-7789 I really like Alex Proyas, and I think that Dark City would deserve a greater reputation. However, Knowing was a really bad film: it was dull, superficial, not-credible, poorly acted and lame. Even the final scenes resulted lame, despite not being a happy ending. I agree that Nicholas Cage can be a good actor in comedies, but lately he's not only a horrible actor with one, uninspiring expression (sad eyes+half-open mouth), he's a guarantee that the film where he stars will suck! Just look at his last 5-10 films... I really like Alex Proyas, and I think that Dark City would deserve a greater reputation. However, Knowing was a really bad film: it was dull, superficial, not-credible, poorly acted and lame. Even the final scenes resulted lame, despite not being a happy ending.
I agree that Nicholas Cage can be a good actor in comedies, but lately he’s not only a horrible actor with one, uninspiring expression (sad eyes+half-open mouth), he’s a guarantee that the film where he stars will suck! Just look at his last 5-10 films…

]]> By: mlawski http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/04/04/knowing-is-not-half-the-battle/#comment-7507 mlawski Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:38:32 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=6415#comment-7507 @Isaac: Cool! Thanks for the recs! @Isaac: Cool! Thanks for the recs!

]]> By: Isaac http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/04/04/knowing-is-not-half-the-battle/#comment-7506 Isaac Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:33:39 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=6415#comment-7506 Nicolas Cage used to be an awesome actor. If you like him in <i>Moonstruck</i> you owe it to yourself to see <i>Birdy</i>, and especially <i>Vampire's Kiss</i>. Seriously. In <i>Vampire's Kiss</i> he hits Crispin-Gloverian heights of weirdness, and sustains them for most of the movie. It's excellent. Nicolas Cage used to be an awesome actor. If you like him in Moonstruck you owe it to yourself to see Birdy, and especially Vampire’s Kiss. Seriously. In Vampire’s Kiss he hits Crispin-Gloverian heights of weirdness, and sustains them for most of the movie. It’s excellent.

]]> By: mlawski http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/04/04/knowing-is-not-half-the-battle/#comment-7488 mlawski Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:40:14 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=6415#comment-7488 Sounds like a less good Childhood's End. On another note, I've been in a years' long argument about whether Nicholas Cage is a good actor. I claim yes, but only in comedies or almost-comedies. Cage is excellent in Moonstruck and pretty damn decent in The Rock and Con Air. I don't like this newish trend of Nicholas Cage playing the action hero in unironic action movies. He's too...awkward. It's like having Charles Brodin play the action hero. Or dare I say Steve Buscemi? If you're curious, here's the most ridiculous scene I've ever witnessed, Nicholas Cage's character's intro in Moonstruck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhifn6Q6DQo Sounds like a less good Childhood’s End.

On another note, I’ve been in a years’ long argument about whether Nicholas Cage is a good actor. I claim yes, but only in comedies or almost-comedies. Cage is excellent in Moonstruck and pretty damn decent in The Rock and Con Air. I don’t like this newish trend of Nicholas Cage playing the action hero in unironic action movies. He’s too…awkward. It’s like having Charles Brodin play the action hero. Or dare I say Steve Buscemi?

If you’re curious, here’s the most ridiculous scene I’ve ever witnessed, Nicholas Cage’s character’s intro in Moonstruck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhifn6Q6DQo

]]> By: Wade http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/04/04/knowing-is-not-half-the-battle/#comment-7487 Wade Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:11:34 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=6415#comment-7487 My parents saw Knowing the day it came out, and immediately called me up and told me to go see it so they could have someone to discuss it with. Two weeks later, they're still talking about it. I'll admit, I enjoyed the ending more than the rest of the movie (just the sci-fi geek in me, I guess), but your Superman parallel just blew my mind. Time to call the folks up and see what they think... My parents saw Knowing the day it came out, and immediately called me up and told me to go see it so they could have someone to discuss it with. Two weeks later, they’re still talking about it.

I’ll admit, I enjoyed the ending more than the rest of the movie (just the sci-fi geek in me, I guess), but your Superman parallel just blew my mind.

Time to call the folks up and see what they think…

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