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		<title>By: Are the Oscars getting snootier? &#171; Thoughts about thinking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are the Oscars getting snootier? &#171; Thoughts about thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 26, 2009 at 6:06 pm (film) (science)  I enjoyed this analysis at OverThinkingit.com of trends in the Oscars - in terms of how popular films compared to how likely they are to win, or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 26, 2009 at 6:06 pm (film) (science)  I enjoyed this analysis at OverThinkingit.com of trends in the Oscars &#8211; in terms of how popular films compared to how likely they are to win, or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Film Junk Weekend Wrap-Up: Jackie Chan Gets Violent, Linda Hamilton in T4, Transformers 2 Devastator - Film Junk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Film Junk Weekend Wrap-Up: Jackie Chan Gets Violent, Linda Hamilton in T4, Transformers 2 Devastator - Film Junk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Statistics Prove That Oscars Are Getting Less Mainstream [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Statistics Prove That Oscars Are Getting Less Mainstream [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/02/17/analyzing-oscar/#comment-6567</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would be interesting is if you put a straight horizontal line on some of these charts for the median or average for the entire period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would be interesting is if you put a straight horizontal line on some of these charts for the median or average for the entire period.</p>
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		<title>By: donn</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/02/17/analyzing-oscar/#comment-6555</link>
		<dc:creator>donn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matthew Belinkie - I&#039;m noticing that Oscar-bait movies aren&#039;t widely released until after the nominations are announced. Frost/Nixon was in 153 theaters the day before the nomination and 1,099 the day after. The Wrestler, 144 before 566 after. Milk for some reason took a week to jump from 250 to 882. There are three types of movie we&#039;re dealing with:

1. Immediate saturation release movies, which are more than likely non-snooty, make their money at the beginning of their run. The Dark Knight, frontloaded movie with legs. Iron Man as well. Benjamin Button, even though released late in the year, was front loaded opening in 3000 theaters and making the bulk of its money up front.

2. Non-blockbuster non-oscar bait movies. Might gather steam on actual word of mouth. Possibly snooty, possibly not. Theater count grows or falls on performance.

2. Oscar bait movies, definitely snooty. So snooty they only let people in cities with nominators in them watch the movie until after the nominations. See above for examples.

So the box office before nomination might still be valid as a measure of snootiness if we&#039;re looking for a purely monetary measure of academy snootiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matthew Belinkie &#8211; I&#8217;m noticing that Oscar-bait movies aren&#8217;t widely released until after the nominations are announced. Frost/Nixon was in 153 theaters the day before the nomination and 1,099 the day after. The Wrestler, 144 before 566 after. Milk for some reason took a week to jump from 250 to 882. There are three types of movie we&#8217;re dealing with:</p>
<p>1. Immediate saturation release movies, which are more than likely non-snooty, make their money at the beginning of their run. The Dark Knight, frontloaded movie with legs. Iron Man as well. Benjamin Button, even though released late in the year, was front loaded opening in 3000 theaters and making the bulk of its money up front.</p>
<p>2. Non-blockbuster non-oscar bait movies. Might gather steam on actual word of mouth. Possibly snooty, possibly not. Theater count grows or falls on performance.</p>
<p>2. Oscar bait movies, definitely snooty. So snooty they only let people in cities with nominators in them watch the movie until after the nominations. See above for examples.</p>
<p>So the box office before nomination might still be valid as a measure of snootiness if we&#8217;re looking for a purely monetary measure of academy snootiness.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/02/17/analyzing-oscar/#comment-6539</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I reached here because of a recommendation in Film Experience blog and I found very interesting stuff. Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I reached here because of a recommendation in Film Experience blog and I found very interesting stuff. Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Belinkie</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/02/17/analyzing-oscar/#comment-6531</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Belinkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Donn - You are a badass.

Okay, so you just used the grosses of these movies right before the nominations came out? But that doesn&#039;t seem fair at all. The movies released earlier in the year will have completely finished their runs. The movies released very late in the year will just be beginning their runs. Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Donn &#8211; You are a badass.</p>
<p>Okay, so you just used the grosses of these movies right before the nominations came out? But that doesn&#8217;t seem fair at all. The movies released earlier in the year will have completely finished their runs. The movies released very late in the year will just be beginning their runs. Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course some of these films also received a post-Oscar bump, as one can expect will happen this year after a winner is chosen. I wonder, is there any way to compare Pre-Oscar grosses instead of total grosses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course some of these films also received a post-Oscar bump, as one can expect will happen this year after a winner is chosen. I wonder, is there any way to compare Pre-Oscar grosses instead of total grosses.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Belinkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Belinkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shana - Yeah, I&#039;d be much more excited by either the Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic Awards. But I suppose one of the things that makes Oscar-predicting so fascinating is the perennial quirkiness of their choices and snubs, and the mysterious nature of the selections. If it were just a popularity contest, you&#039;d have the MTV Movie Awards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shana &#8211; Yeah, I&#8217;d be much more excited by either the Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic Awards. But I suppose one of the things that makes Oscar-predicting so fascinating is the perennial quirkiness of their choices and snubs, and the mysterious nature of the selections. If it were just a popularity contest, you&#8217;d have the MTV Movie Awards.</p>
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		<title>By: mlawski</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlawski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continued.

Metacritic&#039;s Best Picture List (minus the foreigns and super-indies) would be in this order:

1. Wall-E
2. Slumdog Millionaire
3. Milk
4. Happy-Go-Lucky
5. The Dark Knight

If you take out Happy-Go-Lucky for being too indie, the next is The Wrestler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continued.</p>
<p>Metacritic&#8217;s Best Picture List (minus the foreigns and super-indies) would be in this order:</p>
<p>1. Wall-E<br />
2. Slumdog Millionaire<br />
3. Milk<br />
4. Happy-Go-Lucky<br />
5. The Dark Knight</p>
<p>If you take out Happy-Go-Lucky for being too indie, the next is The Wrestler.</p>
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		<title>By: mlawski</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlawski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s almost tomorrow, so I&#039;m breaking my silence.  Sorry!

@D: I was thinking about what you said about &quot;best reviewed,&quot; so I went over to Rotten Tomatoes to see what the best reviewed movies of last year were.

If Best Picture nods were based on Rotten Tomatoes rankings, the nods (not counting foreign films) would be:

1. The Wrestler
2. Let the Right One In (indie vampire flick)
3. Wall-E
4. The Dark Knight
5. Slumdog Millionaire

If you take out Let the Right One In &#039;cause it&#039;s too indie, #6 is a tie between Iron Man and Milk.

The Reader, Benjamin Button, and Doubt are not on Rotten Tomato&#039;s Top 100 of 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s almost tomorrow, so I&#8217;m breaking my silence.  Sorry!</p>
<p>@D: I was thinking about what you said about &#8220;best reviewed,&#8221; so I went over to Rotten Tomatoes to see what the best reviewed movies of last year were.</p>
<p>If Best Picture nods were based on Rotten Tomatoes rankings, the nods (not counting foreign films) would be:</p>
<p>1. The Wrestler<br />
2. Let the Right One In (indie vampire flick)<br />
3. Wall-E<br />
4. The Dark Knight<br />
5. Slumdog Millionaire</p>
<p>If you take out Let the Right One In &#8217;cause it&#8217;s too indie, #6 is a tie between Iron Man and Milk.</p>
<p>The Reader, Benjamin Button, and Doubt are not on Rotten Tomato&#8217;s Top 100 of 2008.</p>
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