Comments on: Unpacking Christian Bale’s Armband: The Resistance Logo from “Terminator: Salvation”

By: Noah Mittman

Noah Mittman — Thu, 21 May 2009 18:30:05 +0000

“JC (amazing coincidence, those initials)”

Yeah, if James Cameron is known for one thing, it’s subtlety. ;)

By: ankhor(anchhor)

ankhor(anchhor) — Mon, 04 May 2009 15:34:03 +0000

Well, maybe they hope that the rule of mercury/hermes prolonges
much longer then it has(or will last actually), it is the symbol of trade here in europe.
Do you remember that the writer of harry potter made a statue
in honor of mercury/hermes, which only makes sense if she is thanking for the huge amount of money she made. Otherwise she would have thanked the muzes.
remember the thunderdome, the mad max movies, what does the guy in the cage have. The winged wheel, symbol of transportation. Why did financial institutions have bulding consisting of two towers? The two pillars, janich and boaz, which also is what the templars cross actually represents.
And how many banks have the caduceus somewhere in their building, just watch TV and see that most did. If you had eyes you could have seen these couple of last months.
Ah , |I won`t tell too much, it is much more fun to discover it all yourself, just keep your eyes open and look up, especially buildings made around the 1900′s

)O+->

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:46:44 +0000

I guess we’ll have to wait for the movie (unless someone has insight) to find out what significance the number eight has. The snakes or DNA strands, whatever they may be, appear to form the number 8 centered behind the sword. The top oval is obviously smaller than the lower one as they are formed by the overlapping lines. So what is the number eight in Terminator lore, or is this a new thing?

By: Kyle Stone

Kyle Stone — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:13:55 +0000

It’s going a bit far to say there are seperate factions in T:SCC. The fact that Jesse and Riley want to stop John seeing Cameron doesn’t qualify them as being a different faction.

And like Derek said, there was only 5 Greys, including Fisher. So once again, doesn’t really qualify a seperate faction.

I’d say the bigger reason for the Resistance wearing insignia is to identify themselves from regular people. There’s still large numbers of people left alive, and only some are Resistance.

By: Matthew Wrather

Matthew Wrather — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:11:47 +0000

@lee — I agree that that seems to be the T:SCC model of time travel.

(I pause here to note, though, that nothing seems actually to avert Judgment Day — it’s like it’s fated to happen and will happen in some form or other no matter what — which makes the Terminator model of time travel kind of a compromise between the ancient Greek model [you can't fight city hall] and the “A Sound of Thunder” model, where a single timeline changes instantly when something in the past changes.)

Confirming your hypothesis (spoiler alert): When Reese and Hot Austrasian Kick-Ass Chick (forget her name) find Toby Ziegler and hold him hostage in a shipping container, and Reese doesn’t remember the guy from the future, it seems like the forking timelines theory comes true.

But then, why does H.A.K.A.C. come back to THIS timeline, instead of a separate one?

By: lee

lee — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:42:02 +0000

@Wrather, depends on which John Connor you’re talking about.

By my understanding of time travel, with every instance of traveling through time, a timeline forks. So the John Connor of the “original” timeline who sent Kyle back to stop the first Terminator is a totally different JC than the one who survived the events of T2, who is a totally different JC who survived the events of T3, who is a totally different JC who survived the attack in the school in the T:SCC pilot, etc. etc. etc.

So basically, what we’re seeing in T:SCC is the repercussions of a timeline in which a future JC has been so messed up by all of the experiences that led him to the leadership of the Resistance that he can’t think straight. Which I think is totally plausible.

By: fenzel

fenzel — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:04:57 +0000

So, it’s basically _Reign of Fire_, except with robots instead of dragons?

By: Matthew Wrather

Matthew Wrather — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:13:08 +0000

You know, this is actually something that Lee, Mlawski and I learned at ComicCon. No less an authority than McG himself said that the film will take place in a universe separate from T:SCC, and be faithful to the first two Terminator movies (borrowing only the altered timeline and date of Judgement Day from T3).

Though while we’re at it (Sarah Connor Chronicles spoilers ahead), I think you’re right about human factions in the future. Do you agree that the issue they seem to split over is whether JC (amazing coincidence, those initials) is still a good leader of the resistance, or whether he spends all his time with his robot sex toy?

By: RRedman64

RRedman64 — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:09:13 +0000

If they are building on the mythology from the Sara Connor Chronicles, then there are multiple factions among the human survivors in the future, and the insignia may actually demonstrate alliance with or allegiance to a particular faction.