Comments on: The Musical Talmud: Chinese Democracy

By: The Musical Talmud: Neon Knights | Overthinking It

The Musical Talmud: Neon Knights | Overthinking It — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:54:11 +0000

[...] Part 1, “Don’t Stop Believing,” Part 2, “The KKK Took My Baby Away,” Part 3, “I Want It That Way,” Part 4, “Chinese Democracy,” and Part 5 “Happy Xmas (War is Over).”] Oh no, here it comes again Cant [...]

By: Regel

Regel — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:18:35 +0000

I fear that a majority of the American public would rule in favor of not disrupting the enormous economic cooperation between the two nations no matter what nationality of people are being persecuted. At the very least the government would be in pickle with a recession in full swing. Overall, the analysis of these lyrics were fun to read and very smart. I however have not heard anyone mention G N R finally releasing the album in “Beijing 2008.” Can anyone point me to some good analysis of that?
The people will be the factor in giving the CCP the finger but it remains to be seen if China’s relations with neighboring nations could have a part in that (i.e. India and Tibet). Those western provinces will be key with how they treated and structured.

By: The Musical Talmud: Happy Xmas (War Is Over) | Overthinking It

The Musical Talmud: Happy Xmas (War Is Over) | Overthinking It — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:35:15 +0000

[...] Part 4, “Chinese Democracy” [...]

By: Gab

Gab — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:52:48 +0000

Oh, here’s the video…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-P15e6NvtU

By: Gab

Gab — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:51:59 +0000

If I’m correct in my assumption about where that last image comes from, I think the next shot of it (at the end of this clip: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=31139118 )to an extent, encapsulates whom *I* think Axl is referring to: the Chinese people themselves. Similar to how Marxist revolutionary theory rests a lot upon the power of the numbers of the proletariat, there are a LOT more poor and oppressed people in China than there are affluent and prosperous. In time, Axl postulates, they will realize the power they have AS A GROUP and collectively give the CCP the birdy.

I think he’s relying more on the Chinese people than the rest of the world because of this “time” issue. “Time” doesn’t really mean anything to those outside of China and not suffering under its government because those on the outside are getting exactly what they want: cheap(ly made) goods and cheap labor. Yes, there are probably a lot more people upset by the human rights violations than aren’t, but it would take more than just time to get THEM to do something about it in the massive amounts and direct methods required to tip the scale, for when in history has a movement and intervention from the outside started a successful revolution from within because of issues like this one? And I wouldn’t count, say, the French Revolution because yes, while inspired by the American one, we didn’t physically assist the French revolutionaries- I’m talking about DIRECT intervention, not just inspirational or philosophical. Overall, “It’s not my problem,” is the mindset when it’s not happening on the inside, so unless it *becomes* “my problem,” meaning we find out that Americans are getting mistreated in China in droves (because there are probably examples that get written off as “isolated incidents,” I’m sure), it’s going to come from China, not anywhere else.

IMO, of course.

Awesome post. Coincidentally, I was listening to The Shins as I was writing my comment, and “So Says I” started to play. It’s great commentary on the failure of Communist revolutions. And the video is made of awesome:

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/So-Says-I-lyrics-The-Shins/B99869908A19A2CB48256DDF000B99E5