Comments on: The Name’s Wayne. Bruce Wayne. http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/09/10/the-names-wayne-bruce-wayne/ Overthinking It subjects the popular culture to a level of scrutiny it probably doesn't deserve. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:53:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: The Dark Knight Returns (on DVD) | Overthinking It http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/09/10/the-names-wayne-bruce-wayne/#comment-3144 The Dark Knight Returns (on DVD) | Overthinking It Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:11:50 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=1611#comment-3144 [...] Batmanization [...] [...] Batmanization [...]

]]> By: Popular Culture We’re Taking For Granted | Overthinking It http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/09/10/the-names-wayne-bruce-wayne/#comment-2901 Popular Culture We’re Taking For Granted | Overthinking It Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:56:37 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=1611#comment-2901 [...] we last touched on this topic, there was some debate as to whether or not this trend is a good thing. Discussion that enfolded in [...] [...] we last touched on this topic, there was some debate as to whether or not this trend is a good thing. Discussion that enfolded in [...]

]]> By: leo http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/09/10/the-names-wayne-bruce-wayne/#comment-1663 leo Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:11:43 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=1611#comment-1663 Nolanized? Frank Miller-ized is more like it. 'Bout time, too. Burton's Batman Blew. Nolanized? Frank Miller-ized is more like it. ‘Bout time, too. Burton’s Batman Blew.

]]> By: lee http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/09/10/the-names-wayne-bruce-wayne/#comment-1548 lee Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:41:27 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=1611#comment-1548 >>Or how about Alien v Batman V Predator v Bond??? I sense a disturbance in The Force...the sound of a million fanboys squealing in glee. >>Or how about Alien v Batman V Predator v Bond???

I sense a disturbance in The Force…the sound of a million fanboys squealing in glee.

]]> By: Ben http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/09/10/the-names-wayne-bruce-wayne/#comment-1542 Ben Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:42:47 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=1611#comment-1542 You can definitely see the Bond influence in TDK. Look at the scenes where Fox is explaining the new suit and he fires those spikes - that's straight out of Bond. So we're in the strange situation where Bond and Batman films seem to inspire each other. The question is, how long until someone decides Batman v Bond is a good idea? Or how about Alien v Batman V Predator v Bond??? You can definitely see the Bond influence in TDK. Look at the scenes where Fox is explaining the new suit and he fires those spikes – that’s straight out of Bond. So we’re in the strange situation where Bond and Batman films seem to inspire each other.

The question is, how long until someone decides Batman v Bond is a good idea? Or how about Alien v Batman V Predator v Bond???

]]> By: lee http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/09/10/the-names-wayne-bruce-wayne/#comment-1534 lee Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:38:41 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=1611#comment-1534 Speaking of the Bond/Nolan connection, Nolan has said himself that he's a big Bond fan and would love to direct a Bond picture: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/features/?id=1921&pagenum=all&p=.htm Given the state of that franchise now, I suppose one could argue that he wouldn't add too much that hasn't already been done with it. Also, given Nolan's cachet, he may be "too big" to do Bond now. He did say in that same interview that he would NOT be interested in doing a Harry Potter movie. Speaking of the Bond/Nolan connection, Nolan has said himself that he’s a big Bond fan and would love to direct a Bond picture:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/features/?id=1921&pagenum=all&p=.htm

Given the state of that franchise now, I suppose one could argue that he wouldn’t add too much that hasn’t already been done with it. Also, given Nolan’s cachet, he may be “too big” to do Bond now.

He did say in that same interview that he would NOT be interested in doing a Harry Potter movie.

]]> By: lee http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/09/10/the-names-wayne-bruce-wayne/#comment-1512 lee Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:58:04 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=1611#comment-1512 "Die Another Day" may have been somewhat silly and over the top, but it's no "Batman and Robin." Need I remind you of Mr. Freeze? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU7tzVu2h6k Two words: Chill out. “Die Another Day” may have been somewhat silly and over the top, but it’s no “Batman and Robin.” Need I remind you of Mr. Freeze?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU7tzVu2h6k

Two words: Chill out.

]]> By: Gab http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/09/10/the-names-wayne-bruce-wayne/#comment-1508 Gab Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:06:21 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=1611#comment-1508 Oooh, ok. No, I agree, those sucked hard. Clooney even admitted that he "killed the batman genre" with Batman and Robin. Die Another Day made me cry inside. Oooh, ok. No, I agree, those sucked hard. Clooney even admitted that he “killed the batman genre” with Batman and Robin. Die Another Day made me cry inside.

]]> By: Ben http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/09/10/the-names-wayne-bruce-wayne/#comment-1506 Ben Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:48:12 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=1611#comment-1506 By previous installments I was of course referring to Batman and Robin and Die Another Day. I didn't want to explicitly reference them and now I have, I wish I hadn't. By previous installments I was of course referring to Batman and Robin and Die Another Day. I didn’t want to explicitly reference them and now I have, I wish I hadn’t.

]]> By: Gab http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/09/10/the-names-wayne-bruce-wayne/#comment-1505 Gab Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:24:40 +0000 http://www.overthinkingit.com/?p=1611#comment-1505 Yeah, I agree with Ben, I think it was filmed before TDK and that the trailer was just tailored to fit that attitude. And the lack of sex sort of makes sense if you think about it more: he's out for revenge for the death of the woman he almost quit spying for, the one he was willing to give up that playboy-ness to be with; so he may not be as interested in womanizing again yet, still reeling from her loss. And there IS that shot of him kissing the girl's naked back (in the trailer I saw before, at least- it isn't working on this page at the moment, so this could be a different version, but I've seen a trailer for it a dozen times or so between theaters and trailer-watching at home). I disagree with Ben in that I think Batman Begins and Casino Royale were great. But I just thought of a question. Batman's universe has been "Nolanized," no doubt: he has made it clear that he wants to have his Batman movies possess a distinct separation from the older films by Burton and Schumacher. What about the latest Bond films? They seem to be a different interpretation of the Bond universe, as well. This cannot be by accident, so do the filmmakers want to distinguish between their Bond and the Bonds of the past? Are they trying to reinvent Bond? I mean, think of the parallels here: Casino Royale was similar to Batman Begins in that it gave us the origin of Bond's 007 status: we see him get the last kill he needs to earn the number. And that movie was a lot less campy and far-fetched than the older Bond movies: the stunts, while awesome, weren't as ridiculous, and nothing he or any character did made the part of me that refuses to suspend belief when watching films scream, "Are you fu**ing kidding me?!" like I did in every other Bond movie. Further, the last couple moments in Casino Royale give us a VERY strong hint about what will happen in the next one, similar to how Gordon shows Batman the Joker's card at the end of BB. Then the follow up of Quantum of Solace appears, and, at least from the trailer, its appears as though it's darker, the main character broods more, and, gasp, his former allies seem to be going after him. But I guess I'll reiterate that I don't think they made Quantum of Solace to fit TDK, because they had to be pretty much, if not completely, finished when TDK hit theaters. So unless they were able to see TDK early and got inspired or something, I think the trailer was edited in such a way to make it look like TDK. But the overall treatment of the two universes is quite similar, nonetheless, in my HUMBLE opinion. Yeah, I agree with Ben, I think it was filmed before TDK and that the trailer was just tailored to fit that attitude. And the lack of sex sort of makes sense if you think about it more: he’s out for revenge for the death of the woman he almost quit spying for, the one he was willing to give up that playboy-ness to be with; so he may not be as interested in womanizing again yet, still reeling from her loss. And there IS that shot of him kissing the girl’s naked back (in the trailer I saw before, at least- it isn’t working on this page at the moment, so this could be a different version, but I’ve seen a trailer for it a dozen times or so between theaters and trailer-watching at home).

I disagree with Ben in that I think Batman Begins and Casino Royale were great. But I just thought of a question. Batman’s universe has been “Nolanized,” no doubt: he has made it clear that he wants to have his Batman movies possess a distinct separation from the older films by Burton and Schumacher. What about the latest Bond films? They seem to be a different interpretation of the Bond universe, as well. This cannot be by accident, so do the filmmakers want to distinguish between their Bond and the Bonds of the past? Are they trying to reinvent Bond? I mean, think of the parallels here: Casino Royale was similar to Batman Begins in that it gave us the origin of Bond’s 007 status: we see him get the last kill he needs to earn the number. And that movie was a lot less campy and far-fetched than the older Bond movies: the stunts, while awesome, weren’t as ridiculous, and nothing he or any character did made the part of me that refuses to suspend belief when watching films scream, “Are you fu**ing kidding me?!” like I did in every other Bond movie. Further, the last couple moments in Casino Royale give us a VERY strong hint about what will happen in the next one, similar to how Gordon shows Batman the Joker’s card at the end of BB. Then the follow up of Quantum of Solace appears, and, at least from the trailer, its appears as though it’s darker, the main character broods more, and, gasp, his former allies seem to be going after him. But I guess I’ll reiterate that I don’t think they made Quantum of Solace to fit TDK, because they had to be pretty much, if not completely, finished when TDK hit theaters. So unless they were able to see TDK early and got inspired or something, I think the trailer was edited in such a way to make it look like TDK. But the overall treatment of the two universes is quite similar, nonetheless, in my HUMBLE opinion.

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