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		<title>By: &#8220;Was it sexual?&#8221; &#8220;Yes. Overwhelmingly so. And Horrible.&#8221; &#124; Overthinking It</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/05/25/a-farewell-to-horror-lair-of-the-white-worm/#comment-561</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Was it sexual?&#8221; &#8220;Yes. Overwhelmingly so. And Horrible.&#8221; &#124; Overthinking It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] enjoy this movie - I&#8217;m not made of stone, man! - but if you&#8217;re going to see just one thoroughly daft horror film with wall-to-wall bosoms, make it Lair of the White Worm [...]</description>
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		<title>By: elmer sackman</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/05/25/a-farewell-to-horror-lair-of-the-white-worm/#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>elmer sackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and no. How is that for dichotomy.

As for the dichotomy between Lady Sylvia and the Trent girls, it may not be as great as one thinks. Using the men in the film as a standard.

Lady Sylvia
extremely sexually aggressive=Yes
smarter=Maybe so, but only marginally smarter than 
        Angus.
wealthier=unless she has something stashed away, 
          which we do not see, Lord James seems to 
          be wealthier.
more powerful=Maybe so, but what good does this do 
              her, when even someone like Kevin 
              can get the better of her. &quot;Let us 
              have some music.&quot; she says. He 
              misunderstands her, picks up his 
              mouth organ, and causes her to 
              dance strangely.

Trent girls
inexperienced Eve=Yes. Mary=No.
sexually passive=I take this to mean that Eve 
                 let someone else make the 
                 decision for her. But in 
                 1988, she chooses not to 
                 take a husband, and in
                 286, she chooses not to 
                 take a husband, by 
                 entering a convent. Not 
                 that it does her much 
                 good.
subservient intellectually=Yes, as they 
                           do not enter 
                           the men&#039;s 
                           talks.
subservient financially=No. Indeed, 
            when their parents disappeared, and they 
            could have taken a man in to help them 
            run the B&amp;B, Mary, both figuratively and 
            literally, puts on the pants in the 
            family, so they would not be 
            subservient financially to a man or men. 

I agree. That is not exactly the message we should be sending to our daughters, but I would add, it is also a message we should be sending to our sons.

It may seem that I am disagreeing with you, but I am not, at least, on the major points you made. For, as you say, it is hard to tell where the film is at any time. For, as Richard Harrington, the film critic for the &quot;Washington Post&quot; points out, in the film, we have conflicts between . . .

ernest and decadent
paganism and Christianity
surreal and real
violent and bucolic

And to that, I would add the following conflicts, as well.

brains and brawn
comedy and seriousness
horror and spoof
masculine and feminine
sexual license and sexual restraint
Thatcherism and non-Thatcherism
The upper class and the middle and lower classes
and not only female and female, but also female and male. Indeed, unlike most films, most of the physical confrontations in the films are between the women and the men in the film.

And anyway, you have given me something to think about. And for that, I thank you. 
                      
                        
                      
                        
                      
                  
                    
                      
                       
                       
                         
                        figurativ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and no. How is that for dichotomy.</p>
<p>As for the dichotomy between Lady Sylvia and the Trent girls, it may not be as great as one thinks. Using the men in the film as a standard.</p>
<p>Lady Sylvia<br />
extremely sexually aggressive=Yes<br />
smarter=Maybe so, but only marginally smarter than<br />
        Angus.<br />
wealthier=unless she has something stashed away,<br />
          which we do not see, Lord James seems to<br />
          be wealthier.<br />
more powerful=Maybe so, but what good does this do<br />
              her, when even someone like Kevin<br />
              can get the better of her. &#8220;Let us<br />
              have some music.&#8221; she says. He<br />
              misunderstands her, picks up his<br />
              mouth organ, and causes her to<br />
              dance strangely.</p>
<p>Trent girls<br />
inexperienced Eve=Yes. Mary=No.<br />
sexually passive=I take this to mean that Eve<br />
                 let someone else make the<br />
                 decision for her. But in<br />
                 1988, she chooses not to<br />
                 take a husband, and in<br />
                 286, she chooses not to<br />
                 take a husband, by<br />
                 entering a convent. Not<br />
                 that it does her much<br />
                 good.<br />
subservient intellectually=Yes, as they<br />
                           do not enter<br />
                           the men&#8217;s<br />
                           talks.<br />
subservient financially=No. Indeed,<br />
            when their parents disappeared, and they<br />
            could have taken a man in to help them<br />
            run the B&amp;B, Mary, both figuratively and<br />
            literally, puts on the pants in the<br />
            family, so they would not be<br />
            subservient financially to a man or men. </p>
<p>I agree. That is not exactly the message we should be sending to our daughters, but I would add, it is also a message we should be sending to our sons.</p>
<p>It may seem that I am disagreeing with you, but I am not, at least, on the major points you made. For, as you say, it is hard to tell where the film is at any time. For, as Richard Harrington, the film critic for the &#8220;Washington Post&#8221; points out, in the film, we have conflicts between . . .</p>
<p>ernest and decadent<br />
paganism and Christianity<br />
surreal and real<br />
violent and bucolic</p>
<p>And to that, I would add the following conflicts, as well.</p>
<p>brains and brawn<br />
comedy and seriousness<br />
horror and spoof<br />
masculine and feminine<br />
sexual license and sexual restraint<br />
Thatcherism and non-Thatcherism<br />
The upper class and the middle and lower classes<br />
and not only female and female, but also female and male. Indeed, unlike most films, most of the physical confrontations in the films are between the women and the men in the film.</p>
<p>And anyway, you have given me something to think about. And for that, I thank you. </p>
<p>                        figurativ</p>
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		<title>By: stokes</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/05/25/a-farewell-to-horror-lair-of-the-white-worm/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>stokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sexism I&#039;m worried about here isn&#039;t so much the violence that is &lt;em&gt;inflicted&lt;/em&gt; on women, rather, it&#039;s the dichotomy between Lady Sylvia (extremely sexually aggressive, and smarter, wealthier, and more powerful than the male characters) and the Trent girls (sexually passive/inexperienced, and subservient to the men intellectually and financially).  The film seems to believe that if you&#039;re a woman who doesn&#039;t conform to traditional gender roles,  you&#039;re probably an evil snake-vampire, and should be killed as soon as possible.   Not exactly the message we should be sending to our daughters.

But the dichotomy is SO over the top that it&#039;s hard to take seriously.  It&#039;s not like Lady Sylvia just turns out to be a bitch, or even that she&#039;s just evil.  She&#039;s not just &quot;emasculating&quot; because she&#039;s a powerful woman, she &lt;em&gt;bites a guy on the penis&lt;/em&gt;. She&#039;s not just &quot;unfeminine&quot; because she&#039;s confident and sexually aggressive, she&#039;s unfeminine because she carries around a giant spiked phallus. And like I said, I more or less ended up rooting for Lady Sylvia anyway, because Donohoe&#039;s performance is so strong.  So it&#039;s hard to say where the movie&#039;s heart is.  I kind of tend to give the film the benefit of the doubt, but I&#039;m not %100 sure.

Ah, poor Kev.  He does get a pretty raw deal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sexism I&#8217;m worried about here isn&#8217;t so much the violence that is <em>inflicted</em> on women, rather, it&#8217;s the dichotomy between Lady Sylvia (extremely sexually aggressive, and smarter, wealthier, and more powerful than the male characters) and the Trent girls (sexually passive/inexperienced, and subservient to the men intellectually and financially).  The film seems to believe that if you&#8217;re a woman who doesn&#8217;t conform to traditional gender roles,  you&#8217;re probably an evil snake-vampire, and should be killed as soon as possible.   Not exactly the message we should be sending to our daughters.</p>
<p>But the dichotomy is SO over the top that it&#8217;s hard to take seriously.  It&#8217;s not like Lady Sylvia just turns out to be a bitch, or even that she&#8217;s just evil.  She&#8217;s not just &#8220;emasculating&#8221; because she&#8217;s a powerful woman, she <em>bites a guy on the penis</em>. She&#8217;s not just &#8220;unfeminine&#8221; because she&#8217;s confident and sexually aggressive, she&#8217;s unfeminine because she carries around a giant spiked phallus. And like I said, I more or less ended up rooting for Lady Sylvia anyway, because Donohoe&#8217;s performance is so strong.  So it&#8217;s hard to say where the movie&#8217;s heart is.  I kind of tend to give the film the benefit of the doubt, but I&#8217;m not %100 sure.</p>
<p>Ah, poor Kev.  He does get a pretty raw deal!</p>
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		<title>By: elmer sackman</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/05/25/a-farewell-to-horror-lair-of-the-white-worm/#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>elmer sackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&#039;Trying to answer the perennial question of &#039;sexist.&#039; Or holding a dark mirror up to sexism?&#039;&quot;

An interesting statement. At first glance, I have never thought of this. On second glance, I think you might be right. Would you care to expound on your statement, including your definitions of &quot;sexist&quot; and &quot;sexism?&quot;

As for my thoughts . . .

One, while most of the film characters, who express sexist comments, are male, here we have a female character, who expresses sexist comments.

Two, Ken Russell may be an equal opportunity sexist, as the men in the flm are treated as badly as the females in the film, if not worst.

Angus (Peter Capaldi)
Slapped with a dead animal. Bitten. Dragged down the hall. Thrown down a flight of stairs. And vampirized.

Erny (Paul Brooke)
Lured into her web of evil and vampirized, which leads to her death.

Joe (Christopher Gable)
We can presume that he met a most foul death during the past year.

Peters (Stratford Johns)
Bitten on the face and thrown off the balcony to his death.

Kevin (Chris Pitt)
And poor little Kev. Has any teenage boy scout ever being more harshly treated at the hands of a woman. Just when he thinks he&#039;s going to make it with the hottest woman he has ever seen and receiving his first taste of oral sex from a woman, he is bitten on the penis by this woman. Paralyzed. Has his body ordor and breath insulted. And then drowned in the tub, when the doorbell rings.

James (Hugh Grant)
He is the only male in the film, who is not badly treated, but after the end of the film, he is most likely attacked by Angus and vampirized.

I would also add that the scene between Lady Sylvia Marsh (Amanda Donohoe) and Kevin is somewhat similiar to an earlier scene in &quot;Horror Hotel&quot; with Christopher Lee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8216;Trying to answer the perennial question of &#8216;sexist.&#8217; Or holding a dark mirror up to sexism?&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>An interesting statement. At first glance, I have never thought of this. On second glance, I think you might be right. Would you care to expound on your statement, including your definitions of &#8220;sexist&#8221; and &#8220;sexism?&#8221;</p>
<p>As for my thoughts . . .</p>
<p>One, while most of the film characters, who express sexist comments, are male, here we have a female character, who expresses sexist comments.</p>
<p>Two, Ken Russell may be an equal opportunity sexist, as the men in the flm are treated as badly as the females in the film, if not worst.</p>
<p>Angus (Peter Capaldi)<br />
Slapped with a dead animal. Bitten. Dragged down the hall. Thrown down a flight of stairs. And vampirized.</p>
<p>Erny (Paul Brooke)<br />
Lured into her web of evil and vampirized, which leads to her death.</p>
<p>Joe (Christopher Gable)<br />
We can presume that he met a most foul death during the past year.</p>
<p>Peters (Stratford Johns)<br />
Bitten on the face and thrown off the balcony to his death.</p>
<p>Kevin (Chris Pitt)<br />
And poor little Kev. Has any teenage boy scout ever being more harshly treated at the hands of a woman. Just when he thinks he&#8217;s going to make it with the hottest woman he has ever seen and receiving his first taste of oral sex from a woman, he is bitten on the penis by this woman. Paralyzed. Has his body ordor and breath insulted. And then drowned in the tub, when the doorbell rings.</p>
<p>James (Hugh Grant)<br />
He is the only male in the film, who is not badly treated, but after the end of the film, he is most likely attacked by Angus and vampirized.</p>
<p>I would also add that the scene between Lady Sylvia Marsh (Amanda Donohoe) and Kevin is somewhat similiar to an earlier scene in &#8220;Horror Hotel&#8221; with Christopher Lee.</p>
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		<title>By: Stokes</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/05/25/a-farewell-to-horror-lair-of-the-white-worm/#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>Stokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my god, Leeches looks amazing!  The fact that the IMDB title is &quot;Leeches!&quot; but the poster clearly just says &quot;Leeches&quot;?  The fact that the featured review on IMDB complains &quot;I stopped counting nipples at about 1,000; sadly all male&quot;?  The fact that its Canadian director is also responsible for the films &quot;Grizzly Rage,&quot; &quot;Beastly Boyz,&quot; &quot;Witches of the Caribbean,&quot; and &quot;The Brotherhood IV:  The Complex&quot;?  The mere fact that &quot;The Brotherhood&quot; has spawned three sequels? Unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god, Leeches looks amazing!  The fact that the IMDB title is &#8220;Leeches!&#8221; but the poster clearly just says &#8220;Leeches&#8221;?  The fact that the featured review on IMDB complains &#8220;I stopped counting nipples at about 1,000; sadly all male&#8221;?  The fact that its Canadian director is also responsible for the films &#8220;Grizzly Rage,&#8221; &#8220;Beastly Boyz,&#8221; &#8220;Witches of the Caribbean,&#8221; and &#8220;The Brotherhood IV:  The Complex&#8221;?  The mere fact that &#8220;The Brotherhood&#8221; has spawned three sequels? Unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: mlawski</title>
		<link>http://www.overthinkingit.com/2008/05/25/a-farewell-to-horror-lair-of-the-white-worm/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>mlawski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude.  This looks even better than &quot;Leeches.&quot;  Excuse me; &quot;Leeches!&quot;

Here it is: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0339288/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude.  This looks even better than &#8220;Leeches.&#8221;  Excuse me; &#8220;Leeches!&#8221;</p>
<p>Here it is: <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0339288/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0339288/</a></p>
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